Did you take them with reloads?
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What did you do in the reloading room recently?
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Not yet. I hunt nh southern zones so it's muzzle loader or shotgun for me. They did open the zone I'm in to rifles in 357mag 44mag 45colt this year.....I could use the henry lever in 357. Next year I plan to work up a 180 grain hard cast lead load and take a deer with that. That's a good test of a reloaders skills.
SJan
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These went through a friend's automated CasePro100. (That's the slidy back and forth machine) It's funny that we say "roll sized" as the generic term for sizing before a press mounted sizing die like saying "Kleenex" for any tissue. Now there is a Rollsizer by name (around the carousel machine)
allen-1
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I shot Florida State a couple years ago and one of the guys i was talking to is the manufacturer of rollsizer machine. He’s from MD (if I remember correctly ), was there with his son in an RV. Interesting guy, interesting machine. Can’t justify cost for self.
Never heard of CasePro, will google.
gerrycaruso
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loaded a few rounds of 223 for a precision bolt gun. The brass is all LC22. I used Tac, Benchmark, CFE 223 and H335. The bullet is the Hornady v-max 40 grain bt.
1:12 twist on the rifle?
I have Rem 700 with varmint barrel, and tried some of my AR fodder (69 gain and 55) and it didn’t like it. Finally dawned on me the factory barrel was 1:12 twist. Went to 50 grain Hornady and groups halved, but still inch and a bit. Soon as I finish my coffee I’m going down to check back of reloading cabinet, I should have some lighter things to try
EddieZoom
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Ignorant of anything to do with precision rifle...assumed heavier boolitz (77gr) would be preferred ?
Tallahassee
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AR has some 124gr gold dot pulls back in stock at a nice price, or at least a nice price in my eyes.
Tallahassee
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Depends on the twist and cut of the chamber, also application. 40gr vmax at 3400fps sounds like it would do wonders on coyotes.
Even then, I have two 300 win mags, same twist, action, barrel manufacturer, even the same stock. One likes 208gr, the other loves 190gr.
40gr-50gr .223 Varmint rounds are my go to for predator control on our farm. You use 55gr FMJ on a coyote or fox and odds are it runs away after its hit. Which sounds insane, but I've seen it happen multiple times.
Any weight Barnes TSX or TTSX are excellent choices for one hit kills in any caliber.
Any weight Barnes TSX or TTSX are excellent choices for one hit kills in any caliber.
BarnBuilder
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Tallahassee
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Stopped at cabelas. Grabbed a couple pounds of longshot.
Good amount of primers. A little pricey still. But, if all you need is a box or two, they are available.
Good amount of primers. A little pricey still. But, if all you need is a box or two, they are available.
did a ladder of 6.5cm using nosler 140gr RDFs, discovered that those RDFs are having same exact shape as ELD-Xs, same ogive measurement at the same old die setting, and same total length, which is nice. went up to 44gr of R16, now need to see when it will be warm enough to get out and try it all out. hope something around 43.5 may work out for gas guns i got.
Getting back into it after a hiatus. Gave loading a break for a while during hunting season. Got a deer, so back at it.
Waiting on a 45 caliber can and realized I dont have a host for it, so I'm putting together a 4.5" AR45 next week. First 45aarp, so I picked up some LPP and various powders to try out. Found a few hundred Berry's 230gr and 200gr under my bench. No clue where they came from. Ordered a few hundred XTPs too.
Waiting on a 45 caliber can and realized I dont have a host for it, so I'm putting together a 4.5" AR45 next week. First 45aarp, so I picked up some LPP and various powders to try out. Found a few hundred Berry's 230gr and 200gr under my bench. No clue where they came from. Ordered a few hundred XTPs too.
38ExtraSpecial
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Blowback. Not DI. Better off.
That's what I'm planning. Figure it's a simpler system.
Heard 45 ARs don't actually suppress that well either, but whatever. I just wanted an excuse to use the can.
38ExtraSpecial
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Weird. I wonder what the reason is behind that?
Seems like they would suppress well being subsonic and usually pretty low gas.
Tried 4.4g of Winchester 231, Federal 100 primer, Federal cases, AR 148g JHP seated to 1.460" with medium crimp. I keep forgetting to run a fouling shot through the barrel, so the first shot always seems fast as there's still a little Hoppe's in there. But recoil was not objectionable at all and I was able to shoot about a 7" group at 25 yards. I could probably go up a little bit on charge weight with this powder.
S&W 442 1 7/8" barrel: 741 648 679 684 707 - avg 692, sd 35, es 93
Then I tried those same AR 148g JHP bullets in 357 with 14.5g of Alliant 2400, CCI 550 primers, Starline brass, seated to 1.590" with heavy crimp. I put 4 over the chrono into a paper target at 50 yards to gauge POI, then swiveled the chrono over a bit so I could run over it and put the 5th into a half gallon jug of water also at 50 yards and it pretty much detonated the water jug. Tried to find the bullet in the berm but no dice. Nice little fireball too. Same thing, first shot was a little fast in a clean barrel. Primers looked fine but it took a good slap at the ejector rod to get the cases out. I would probably go down half a grain if I were going to run these in a steel match so I wasn't struggling with ejection on reloads.
S&W 586 6" barrel: 1470 1329 1410 1373 1373 - avg 1391, sd 53, es 141
Made two changes at once, lowered charge weight from 14.5g to 14.0g, and used CBC brass instead of Starline. Ran a few fouling shots first before going over the chrono.
14.0g Alliant 2400, CCI 550 primers, CBC brass, AR 148g JHP bullets seated to 1.590".
1143 1195 1193 1151 1141 - avg 1165, sd 27, es 54
That works out to 172 power factor. IPSC revolver major division is 170, so that seems like a reasonably stout load. Recoil wasn't bad at all in a 6" steel S&W. Pretty good little fireball still.
I loaded 25 and ran a few 2 shot drills off the shot timer, and practiced reloads with an HKS speedloader. A couple cases were a little sticky on extraction, but nothing wild. They didn't fall out, but a light tap of the ejector rod and they were out. I am by no means a speedy handgunner, but from low ready on a 15 yard range, I was getting the first hit on a 2 foot gong in 1.2 - 1.4 seconds and second shot on a 14" plate about 5 feet to the side in about another 1.2 seconds.
If it doesn't rain tomorrow morning we might have a steel match at the club and I think I'll go with 14.1 or 14.2 g of 2400 just so I'm solidly over major power factor (not that anyone cares except me) and so the fireball is more fun.
Tallahassee
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Made a small batch of 10mm to try out tomorrow. 180gr xtp with 9.4gr of longshot.
gerrycaruso
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Let me know how you like the Longshot I have some but haven't decided what to use it in. Have you found any small primer 10mm brass yet? What a pain.
Tallahassee
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I actually bought small primer 10mm by accident, I was pissed. I forget which brand, but I remember reading the reviews and questions, and people said it was large primer. What a bunch of dicks.
Longshot is great for 180+gr in 10mm. You can really get things moving with it. I have been told that if you load hot with it, the primer pockets get worn out fast. But, if you load hot, the brass usually gets ejected into outer space anyways. I'm happy if I can find half my brass afterwards. I think you usually find the other half.
Longshot is great for 180+gr in 10mm. You can really get things moving with it. I have been told that if you load hot with it, the primer pockets get worn out fast. But, if you load hot, the brass usually gets ejected into outer space anyways. I'm happy if I can find half my brass afterwards. I think you usually find the other half.
Trying some of the AR 64g JSP. I'll sight them in at 50 yards, bang some steel plates at 100, see if they'll empty a gallon jug of water, probably run 5 over the chrono.
The cannelures are pretty high up on the bullet, so OAL ended up being a kinda short 2.235".
First time trying H335, have two new cans on hand, going with 24.0g with CCI #41 primers.
Brass is all Lake City 2009 headstamp. I'm not exactly sure which gun I ran them through last, so used the RCBS Precicion Mic to set the shoulder setback. Trimmed them to 1.760" after resizing, ran them through the Dillon 600 pocket swager just because. Loaded on the 550 with Redding dies. Two bullets looked a little funky so those'll be my fouling/sighters. Marked those primers with a sharpie.
The cannelures are pretty high up on the bullet, so OAL ended up being a kinda short 2.235".
First time trying H335, have two new cans on hand, going with 24.0g with CCI #41 primers.
Brass is all Lake City 2009 headstamp. I'm not exactly sure which gun I ran them through last, so used the RCBS Precicion Mic to set the shoulder setback. Trimmed them to 1.760" after resizing, ran them through the Dillon 600 pocket swager just because. Loaded on the 550 with Redding dies. Two bullets looked a little funky so those'll be my fouling/sighters. Marked those primers with a sharpie.
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nstassel
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Making some improvements to my reloading gun room space. For a few years since building this room I had a two level surface which was ok when I was using the far right side for cleaning and tinkering. After getting another 650 I decided to mount it to the right of the older press. I'm going to get rid of the square deal and have dedicated 9mm and .45 650s. I built a base to raise up the left table and that will be my cleaning space. A bit more organizing left to do.
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EddieZoom
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The Franklin Arsenal magnet stuck to the pole is a nice touch ;-)
gerrycaruso
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I've also considered a second 650 to avoid changing between large and small primers. I'd probably get a 750. I don't like the rotary priming system of the 650.
Picked up some older W231 in a trade. Didn't realize it has been manufactured in a couple different countries over the years. Anyone know how to decode the lot code to determine year of manufacture? Can't be that old, plastic bottle.
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Tallahassee
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Received my order from AR. The pulled ss109 barely have a mark on them. The blemished 55gr, well, they look new. Not sure what the blemish is, maybe a little deformity. Nothing I'd worry about.
Another recommendation for AR.
Another recommendation for AR.
I had a chance to put the AR 64 grain pulled JSP through a rifle this afternoon. Also put together a few rounds with Hornady 55g FMJs.
Both out of a 16" barrel, chrono about 15 feet from muzzle. I loaded these on the Dillon including using its powder measure, instead of weighing and trickling up each charge. Pretty much the only constant here is the rifle.
AR 64g JSP, 24.0g H335, CCI #41, Lake City 2021 5.56 brass. 10 shot average 2608, SD 58, ES 183.
Hornady 55g FMJ, 25.0g A2230, CCI #400, Federal 223 brass no date. 10 shot average 2917, SD 42, ES 121
It was pretty cold at the range, I hadn't dressed warmly enough and was like okay let's get this done and go back inside! Definitely not in top form today so the group sizes for each were not awesome. I've shot an 0.8" group with that rifle with a load all tuned up for it, but today I shot 3.6" groups with each of the above loads. That's probably mostly on me this time. Mostly vertical stringing with the Hornady 55g FMJs, more of a round group with the AR 64 JSPs. I did keep the ammo and magazines in the truck while I was setting everything up to minimize any temp sensitivity of the powder and primers.
After groups and chrono, I put a couple plastic bottles full of water down at the backstop. The Hornady 55g... I shot one of the bottles and the only feedback I got was the cap came off. So I shot it again, and the bottle fell over.
Ran the 64g JSP at the other bottle, and it had a better effect. Not quite Hornady 50g Vmax level of detonation, but pretty good.
Went down to pick up my trash and found these:
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Tallahassee
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Try the H335 with the 55gr, I've always had good results with that combo, and hornady makes some nice projectiles.
I forgot to buy olive oil today. Wish I saw this sooner.
