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Hi, I bought my first 12 gauge around Thanksgiving and I'm looking for ammo help. I go to American firearms school in North Attleborough and exclusively paper target shoot. I thought I could be clever and buy 12 gauge ammo along with my 9mm from TSusa thinking I would save money vs buying it there. Their website listed 00, slug or 8/9 shot so I bought what I thought was 8 shot but it turned out its bird shot and isn't allowed on their range. That's totally on me and my mistake, but I still would like to cheaper 12 gauge ammo, without making the same mistake.

So, sorry if this is a dumb question but if anyone can help that would be great..I can link the ammo I purchased if it's allowed and maybe that would point to an obvious reason it wouldn't work.
 
What ammo IS allowed on the range? TS USA has a buckshot filter if that's what you meant to buy.
 
What ammo IS allowed on the range? TS USA has a buckshot filter if that's what you meant to buy.
Hi, their website says;
  • All shotgun ammunition fired must be 8 or 9 pellet, 00 Buck or slug.

The ammo I bought was "Federal Top Gun 12 Gauge Ammo 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz #8 Shot Target" from TSusa. I connected the 8 and 8 and assumed it was what they allowed but that's not the case.

In hindsight I guess they literally mean 8 or 9 pellets in the shell.

 
00 buck is 9 pellets on a standard 12 gauge shell. A shell is #8 shot in it will have a LOT more pellets on it. IIRC skeet loads are often #7 shit.
 
Hi, their website says;
  • All shotgun ammunition fired must be 8 or 9 pellet, 00 Buck or slug.

Jeez, not that I'm a shotgun shooter, but if they don't allow the use of anything other than 00 buck I wouldn't bother.

They're also basicaly telling 20 gauge and .410 owners to pound sand.
 
Jeez, not that I'm a shotgun shooter, but if they don't allow the use of anything other than 00 buck I wouldn't bother.

They're also basicaly telling 20 gauge and .410 owners to pound sand.
They said birdshot isn't allowed because I guess the pellets would bounce all over the place. I don't really know too much about pellets bouncing to comment. I wasn't into shooting shotguns either until I just gave it a chance and it was a lot of fun but it's not for everyone.
 
Hi, their website says;
  • All shotgun ammunition fired must be 8 or 9 pellet, 00 Buck or slug.

The ammo I bought was "Federal Top Gun 12 Gauge Ammo 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz #8 Shot Target" from TSusa. I connected the 8 and 8 and assumed it was what they allowed but that's not the case.

In hindsight I guess they literally mean 8 or 9 pellets in the shell.

1. What kind of shotgun do you have? Is it a tactical shotgun? This will help in making suggestions.

2. Sounds like 00 buck and slugs is all your allowed to use on that indoor range. So......buy 00 buck and slugs........ i mean.....I'm not sure what your asking with regard to ammo.

3. My advice if you have just about anything other than a tactical type shotgun......get on a trap or skeet range and learn to use it for what it's actually designed for.....shooting moving targets cuz.....really? You were planning on shooting #8 birdshot at a paper target on an indoor range? That's just.....wow. I know your new to shotguns but what were you planning on learning by whacking paper at 50 feet with birdshot?

4. As far as your question on "cheep ammo" for the range.....what is your goal with this shotgun? If it's to just get your jollies off pulling the trigger with buckshot then yeah just shop around and buy cheep buckshot. If your goal is a home defense gun......start buying different buckshot brands.....and pattern it through your shotgun using different chokes and decide what's the best load and choke combo that gets 8 to 9 pellets in a 10 inch circle (upper torso) at the distance you expect to cover in your home defense situation. There's alot more to shotguns than loading and pulling the trigger when it comes to using it as an actual tool.
 
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Yup, seems like they only want 00 or slugs in 12 gauge's. The other 12 gauge caveat by way of buckshot is 2.75" shells as mags (3") and super mags (3.5") can hold 12 pellets.
 
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Yup, seems like they only want 00 or slugs in 12 gauge's. The other caveat by way of buckshot is 2.75" shells as mags (3") and super mags (3.5") can hold 12 pellets.
I have 3 inch that hold 15 and 3.5 inch that hold 18.
 
I was listing standards for shell lengths so if he gets 00 to stick with 2.75" if he has a 3 or 3.5 chamber, not by varying manufacturers.
 
I was listing standards for shell lengths so if he gets 00 to stick with 2.75" if he has a 3 or 3.5 chamber, not by varying manufacturers.
I'm just stating that 3 and 3.5 inch loads can hold.way more than 12 pellets. 👍

Even some 2 3/4 shells hold 12.....Remy makes em.
 
Hi, I bought my first 12 gauge around Thanksgiving and I'm looking for ammo help. I go to American firearms school in North Attleborough and exclusively paper target shoot. I thought I could be clever and buy 12 gauge ammo along with my 9mm from TSusa thinking I would save money vs buying it there. Their website listed 00, slug or 8/9 shot so I bought what I thought was 8 shot but it turned out its bird shot and isn't allowed on their range. That's totally on me and my mistake, but I still would like to cheaper 12 gauge ammo, without making the same mistake.

So, sorry if this is a dumb question but if anyone can help that would be great..I can link the ammo I purchased if it's allowed and maybe that would point to an obvious reason it wouldn't work.
In addition to some suggestions you've received.....this chart may be appropriate for you as a new shotgun owner. If you already knew this.....ignore it lol

shot-size-chart-main-tables.jpg
 
"Hi, their website says;
All shotgun ammunition fired must be 8 or 9 pellet, 00 Buck or slug."

Wow, that is horribly written. Just state 00 Buck or slug.
Yeah I agree. Not sure why of they allowed 00 buck that they would limit it to 9 pellet......I mean.....if 9 pellets of 00 buck is safe why would a 12 or 15 pellet payload not be safe.
 
Simpler yet keeping the specifics is "8-9 pellet 00 buckshot or slugs."

JETA: Just wondering one thing with all this circling around: To the OP, are only 12 gauges allowed?
 
Simpler yet keeping the specifics is "8-9 pellet 00 buckshot or slugs."

JETA: Just wondering one thing with all this circling around: To the OP, are only 12 gauges allowed?
I see where your going.....00 buck only comes in 12 gauge.

But as slugs are allowed i guess a 20 gauge, 410, or other sub gauges could be used with slugs by the way it's written.
 
yeah.. AFS is good for what it is, but local clubs are the way to go.. in our area, we have Angle Tree, Independent, and Wrentham which are all along the Rte 152 corridor from Exit 7 to I495. Each has their pros and cons.
 
Hi, I bought my first 12 gauge around Thanksgiving and I'm looking for ammo help. I go to American firearms school in North Attleborough and exclusively paper target shoot. I thought I could be clever and buy 12 gauge ammo along with my 9mm from TSusa thinking I would save money vs buying it there. Their website listed 00, slug or 8/9 shot so I bought what I thought was 8 shot but it turned out its bird shot and isn't allowed on their range. That's totally on me and my mistake, but I still would like to cheaper 12 gauge ammo, without making the same mistake.

So, sorry if this is a dumb question but if anyone can help that would be great..I can link the ammo I purchased if it's allowed and maybe that would point to an obvious reason it wouldn't work.
There's lots of good content on youtube to help educate yourself on shotguns and shotgun ammo. I'm partial to Paul Harrell's into to shotgun video...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49kcp5vep_I
 
A lot of replies so I'll try to condense them to avoid spam. But, thank you for those that responded to help me!

Is there no range available to you where you can shoot whatever you like outdoors?
When I first got my LTC in 2013 I was a member of a outdoor/indoor range combo but lapsed my membership and just started going to walk-in style indoor ranges like american firearms school. I've been trying to go to the range more often to become more proficient but yea, maybe it would be an upgrade to shoot outdoors again.


1. What kind of shotgun do you have? Is it a tactical shotgun? This will help in making suggestions.
Its a charles daly 301 pump-action 12 gauge. I haven't modded it so its just factory specs.

2. Sounds like 00 buck and slugs is all your allowed to use on that indoor range. So......buy 00 buck and slugs........ i mean.....I'm not sure what your asking with regard to ammo.
I didn't realize 8/9 shot comes in different versions. I see now they(AFS) literally meant 8/9 actual pellets in the shell but the one I got (Federal Top Gun 12 Gauge Ammo 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz #8 Shot Target) also said "#8" so I thought I was good.

3. My advice if you have just about anything other than a tactical type shotgun......get on a trap or skeet range and learn to use it for what it's actually designed for.....shooting moving targets cuz.....really? You were planning on shooting #8 birdshot at a paper target on an indoor range? That's just.....wow. I know your new to shotguns but what were you planning on learning by whacking paper at 50 feet with birdshot?
I definitely want to try skeet shooting, it looks fun! Pretty much, I was planning to just shoot the birdshot at the paper targets [laugh] I enjoy it anyway (shooting at paper targets), but you're right, its hard to miss when you're that close.

4. As far as your question on "cheep ammo" for the range.....what is your goal with this shotgun? If it's to just get your jollies off pulling the trigger with buckshot then yeah just shop around and buy cheep buckshot. If your goal is a home defense gun......start buying different buckshot brands.....and pattern it through your shotgun using different chokes and decide what's the best load and choke combo that gets 8 to 9 pellets in a 10 inch circle (upper torso) at the distance you expect to cover in your home defense situation. There's alot more to shotguns than loading and pulling the trigger when it comes to using it as an actual tool.
Yep, I just wanted cheap ammo and figured I could find it cheaper than what they are selling at the range. I get it, they wanna make some money off it by adding a little markup cost.

"There's alot more to shotguns than loading and pulling the trigger when it comes to using it as an actual tool."
100% agree

In addition to some suggestions you've received.....this chart may be appropriate for you as a new shotgun owner. If you already knew this.....ignore it lol
Thank you! I feel like I've seen at least similar types of charts but when it came time to actually buy the ammo I was a bit overwhelmed with how many different types of shotgun ammo there is.

Yeah I agree. Not sure why of they allowed 00 buck that they would limit it to 9 pellet......I mean.....if 9 pellets of 00 buck is safe why would a 12 or 15 pellet payload not be safe.
Not too sure, I just wanna follow their rules and not get kicked out. Funny enough, last time I was there I saw a sign behind the front desk with what I guess was a new range rule where you have to put the ammo back in the box after you are done loading/before you start firing. I wasn't sure why but I still followed it. Later that night I got recommended a video on youtube about that exact scenario where I guess it was the casing from a pistol ejected and landed on the primer of "exposed" ammo and it actually caused the bullet the casing landed on to go off next to the shooter. Now I know why they put that sign up 😬

To the OP, are only 12 gauges allowed?
I think they allow other gauges. I would imagine other gauges just have more/less punch but I think american firearms school allows/allowed 50 BMG so I guess their backstops can handle a hit.
 
I see where your going.....00 buck only comes in 12 gauge.

But as slugs are allowed i guess a 20 gauge, 410, or other sub gauges could be used with slugs by the way it's written.

No, not really as there are certainly 10 ga with 00 and I've seen hand loaded 16 ga I think it had 5 pellets, can't really remember. I'm Just asking if only 12 ga shotguns are allowed is all but the OP copied me and already replied.
 
Do yourself and everyone else there a favor and don't use a shotgun indoors.
Do you mean because of the sound? I sometimes bring my ar-15 and the 12 gauge was at a similar level. The ar-15 is so obnoxiously loud in there that I limit my shooting for everyone's sake but some of the pistols are also surprisingly loud as well.

AFS also added an ak-47 for rental which I'm interested in trying but I think would be even more obnoxious than the ar-15?
 
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