We TRULY don't know.
Twitter or other SM screen grabs should not be used as "evidence" of anything in 2024, especially if they're too good to be true when it comes to backing an agenda. They're just way too easy to fake.
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First school shooting of the fall
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We TRULY don't know.
Twitter or other SM screen grabs should not be used as "evidence" of anything in 2024, especially if they're too good to be true when it comes to backing an agenda. They're just way too easy to fake.
If they can prove drug use history, then he lied on the 4473, so he's going to hang on that alone.
I'd need to see the 'joined' date. It looks like August, but of what year? This year, fake probably. 2019, probably legit.
went back and looked at it again, over 300 followers? and this kid was a 'loner'? It's not 'that' easy to get followers on social media if you are a basement dweller with no obvious talents. Something doesn't add up. My Twitch acct only has 200 followers, most of them are scammers, after a number of years of streaming to myself.
Love Machine
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Reminder - don’t forget to take your meds in the morning! I remember schools before Columbine, we should try going back to being that country instead.
In God We Trust
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It may have been fake, but there is a picture I saw earlier of an online profile of some sort with the f***ing she/her pronouns and such.
KH56010
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And I remember when school shootings didn’t happen before everyone was taking their meds in the morning.
He wont do well in prison...
Or, maybe he'll have a great time in a women's prison if he's trans.
If he goes to Gen Pop they will eat him alive.
Check out the contents in this article:
All over the state kids were arrested for making threats today...
Colin Gray, father of Georgia high school shooting suspect charged with murder, manslaughter, child cruelty
The father of the 14-year-old accused of shooting and killing two teachers and two students at a Georgia high school was arrested and charged with second-degree murder.
www.foxnews.com
TrackDayRdr
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What do you think it's going to do? Same as it does everywhere else. Prime deterrent with the SRO at the door overseeing things. One point of entry. Everyone has to figure out the drill and there is accountability on both sides: students and staff. Yes, perhaps someone will be able to sneak something small in but the big guns and pockets full of magazines will be stopped at the entrance.
If you’re going to put many well-trained armed officers at that point of entry with the metal detector, maybe. And even then there are probably going to be other casualties. But with one SRO? That dudes dead and that’s where the shooting begins. A mass shooter doesn’t need to sneak stuff in. They just intend to kill the most people as possible and that’s going to begin at the point of entry that’s now backed up due to the metal detectors. Or, if it’s flowing smoothly, it’s going to begin with the SRO.
TrackDayRdr
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So far, how many of these school shooters have shot their way in to a school? Seems to me they all sneak in then wreak havoc. So far, none have come across as Rambo types. And if they do shoot their way in, at least the school has a chance to respond by locking the place down. Think of stopping a fox at the door of the chicken coop vs waiting until it gets in to figure out how to slow it down.
zork51
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Good point Hninsky. There needs to be some type of fully functioning security in every single school. Either personel or detection. Don't forget, not working is the new fad for humans.
One point of entry sounds good on paper; in practice, it's unlikely to be enforceable. Tardy kids always find a way to sneak in. Always.
Perhaps because a lot of schools don't have bottlenecks in the morning. Your metal detector will create one. There's always a first time. And this wouldn't be the first; a shooting occurred at a metal detector just last year, IIRC.
School shooters seek crowds: enclosed classrooms are where targets are packed with little or no egress, so that's where they go. If you harden the entrance such that they see no way to sneak a weapon in, but they're still desperate to kamikaze their way to lasting fame, then they'll just gun down the crowd at the entrance.
Like I pointed out above, metal detectors solve some problems, but create others.
TrackDayRdr
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But we have to do something. Anything is better than just leaving the door open in the morning to whomever cares to stroll in with whatever. The few times I had to pick up my kids early from school it was like Ft. Knox. I had to buzz in after they viewed me on camera and even still I was not able to go past the secretary. My GF works for the school district and even she has to buzz in using credentials with no other doors left unlocked at any school. Doesn't seem like such a stretch to imagine it would take much more to harden an already good system effectively.
How about this: make the administration responsible for any sneak-ins.
An anti-gun friend of mine said the onus for responsibility and correction of the gun problems has to come from gun owners. While I don't entirely agree with that statement, his idea that if we don't come up with something the antis will seems to be what is about to happen.
PS - fat chance we are going to get the MA law revoked in a referendum vote after this mess.
I’m not sure they even have to sneak their way in. Put the metal detectors in place and see the crowd that’s funneled up right in front of them. That’s the crowd getting shot into. They might even be able to kill more people that way, unfortunately.
If we pool up the chickens outside the coop until they prove they’re not a fox, the fox has an easy pickins of chickens outside the coop.
It may seem that way, but that’s flawed logic. It may actually be that leaving the door open results in the least amount of deaths when there is a determined mass shooter.
The anything is better than nothing argument often leads to implementing something that is worse than the current state of affairs. We have to present something that is demonstrably better than what we currently have in place. And until that’s presented we can’t just throw darts at random and hope one hits the board. Some of those darts hit people. And that’s worse than not throwing them randomly.
Who here is saying that's a good idea?
Every school I go to nowadays (and there are a lot) have heavily controlled access, such as you describe below. That's workable and efficient for a whole lot of schools. You're making an assumption that anyone can walk into any school anytime, and modern American schools don't tend to work that way... as you yourself point out below:
Why do you think they're not responsible under the status quo? Who else would ultimately be responsible for controlling access? They do their best, but any good-sized school has around a dozen access points. There's only one principal. He can't be everywhere, especially in a world where your best friend's uncle is the custodian, and you know he'll help you sneak in. Shit like that happens all the time.
Everything sounds easy on paper. Once it goes into practice, the bugs show up. They're not insurmountable, but the challenges are greater than you seem to realize they are.
Varmint
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I don't understand why you can be Mayor of DC as a known drug user but can't buy a firearm?
pdm
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The bitch set him up!
KBCraig
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14 is about 7 years too late. I gave kids guns when they turned 3.
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One way or another the problem solved itselfHe wont do well in prison...
Or, maybe he'll have a great time in a women's prison if he's trans.
If he goes to Gen Pop they will eat him alive.
Check out the contents in this article:
All over the state kids were arrested for making threats today...
Colin Gray, father of Georgia high school shooting suspect charged with murder, manslaughter, child cruelty
The father of the 14-year-old accused of shooting and killing two teachers and two students at a Georgia high school was arrested and charged with second-degree murder.
HARRYM
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My guess is all they interviewed him about is asking him how well he can shoot from a roof top......
HARRYM
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Father of Georgia Shooting Suspect Arrested for Involuntary Manslaughter
The father of the 14-year-old Apalachee High School attack suspect was arrested Thursday and charged with manslaughter and other charges.
www.breitbart.com
HorizontalHunter
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GMAFB. I bought my 1st gun at 15 and my 11 year old niece was safer and a better shot than most adult males.
Age has nothing to do with it.
HARRYM
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I just pulled up a chair.....
HorizontalHunter
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Long time ago back when the world wasn’t so screwed up.
HARRYM
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Since 1968 the universal age has been 18 for long guns and 21 for handguns no?
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