First school shooting of the fall

Picton said:
I don't think this lasted very long. All indications are that the SROs engaged as soon as they could; the term "immediate" was used. If you read between the lines of what some of the students are saying, by the time they sought cover there were already cops in the hallways outside. I'm sure a few diagrams will come out soon enough, but I'll be surprised if anyone had all that much time to "huddle" in this incident.

It does confirm the long-held suspicion that most school shooters who are confronted by a locked door will move on, even if there is nothing but a window in their way. That makes this yet another shooting in which the "he's gonna shoot the lock!" scenarios failed to materialize.

School shooters of any age are not fighters, they're cowards. They'll usually seek the path of least resistance.
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Yeah they’re probably so pumped with adrenalin that the brain doesn’t want to deal with a locked door.
 
Varmint said:
Yeah they’re probably so pumped with adrenalin that the brain doesn’t want to deal with a locked door.
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Conventional wisdom is that they're in a Big Hurry. They are aware they're on borrowed time once anyone sees or hears a gun. They seek to maximize carnage, and almost invariably they keep trying doors until they find an unlocked one.
 
TLB said:
Arrested the father.
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The problem with this we are playing into the lefts hand that the gun is the central issue.
We don't know how the kid got the gun - it may have been secured and the kid broke into the safe. Or even put a web cam above the keypad and recorded the combo.
Both my kids have their own toys now but could have been in my safe in minutes if they really wanted to - plenty of angle grinders with cutoff wheels and a 50 amp plasma cutter in the garage. They would have to drag the compressor along but the side of the safe would be gone in two or three compressor cycles.

We don't how he accessed the gun yet and they may never release that info.
 
lancecolonel said:
Tons of kids have long and/or dyed hair. That pic alone should not be used to determine trannyness
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Most of my school's hockey team has hair just like that.

TLB said:
Second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges for dad.
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The Crumbley Precedent.

I'm not entirely comfortable with the trend of slamming up the parents, but I'm also well aware of the Constitutional questions that arise with stiff sentences for juveniles. It's relatively easy to make an argument that a 14-year-old's homicidal ideation is so tied to his developmental immaturity that a long sentence would be iffy.

Those problems don't arise when charging Mom and Dad. And given the past threats this kid made, and the fact that the FBI or locals admonished Dad about the importance of not giving the shooter unsupervised access to the gunz, well... that's a pretty easy charge to make, and probably an easy plea to cop.
 
pastera said:
The problem with this we are playing into the lefts hand that the gun is the central issue.
We don't know how the kid got the gun - it may have been secured and the kid broke into the safe. Or even put a web cam above the keypad and recorded the combo.
Both my kids have their own toys now but could have been in my safe in minutes if they really wanted to - plenty of angle grinders with cutoff wheels and a 50 amp plasma cutter in the garage. They would have to drag the compressor along but the side of the safe would be gone in two or three compressor cycles.

We don't how he accessed the gun yet and they may never release that info.
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The Father purchased the firearm and gave it to his kid as a Christmas present
 
pastera said:
The problem with this we are playing into the lefts hand that the gun is the central issue.
We don't know how the kid got the gun - it may have been secured and the kid broke into the safe. Or even put a web cam above the keypad and recorded the combo.
Both my kids have their own toys now but could have been in my safe in minutes if they really wanted to - plenty of angle grinders with cutoff wheels and a 50 amp plasma cutter in the garage. They would have to drag the compressor along but the side of the safe would be gone in two or three compressor cycles.

We don't how he accessed the gun yet and they may never release that info.
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If the dad is the dirtbag junkie portrayed in the stories then did he lie on a 4473 to get the guns he has? Is he a PP?
 
1sern said:
If the dad is the dirtbag junkie portrayed in the stories then did he lie on a 4473 to get the guns he has? Is he a PP?
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Could be and if he is a PP then throw the book at him for that.
Otherwise the one that needs to take a seat in old sparky is the one that pulled the trigger.

We shouldn't be transferring responsibility to people who didn't commit the actions unless they were knowingly complicit.
 
pastera said:
Could be and if he is a PP then throw the book at him for that.
Otherwise the one that needs to take a seat in old sparky is the one that pulled the trigger.

We shouldn't be transferring responsibility to people who didn't commit the actions unless they were knowingly complicit.
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Not suggesting that but given the stories about the kid's problems and FBI & police involvement because of possible threats, what kind of dipshit goes out and buys junior an AR and says "Merry Xmas, don't shoot your eye out"? Looks like he deserves blame for that much as well.
 
So if I'm hearing this correctly the FBI interviewed Dad and son in May of 2023 about the son making threats online about shooting up schools then December of 2023 Dad buys son an AR for Christmas? What an a**h***. Fry him
 
1sern said:
If the dad is the dirtbag junkie portrayed in the stories then did he lie on a 4473 to get the guns he has? Is he a PP?
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I suspect that if he was a PP, and that was obvious, that they'd have ganked his guns a year ago.

Nobody involved at that time seemed to have a problem with Dad owning guns.
 
Picton said:
I suspect that if he was a PP, and that was obvious, that they'd have ganked his guns a year ago.

Nobody involved at that time seemed to have a problem with Dad owning guns.
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You'd think. There were stories about the Mom dealing and stealing and them both being junkies with him in trouble with the law but who knows what is right so far.
 
G4Y4HK said:
Daddy should get strung up for this too. Who gives a 14 year old a gun as a gift? Why not a BB gun?

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Age has nothing to do with it. I shoot matches with 12 year olds. They can be safer than 50
Year olds.

It’s just basic parenting. I took my nephew with me to help wire a friends basement a couple of months ago. I had to use a multi tool to cut an opening in the drywall. I cut the opening. He was enthralled with this tool. I put it next to him and said clearly “do not pull the trigger on this”. Went up to the bathroom and heard the buzz of the tool. Whatever, aside from that he did great, bought him a ribeye and a videogame.

A month later his dad tells me “they’re doing a Turkey shoot with the boy scouts, will you take him to the range?”. No, when I tell him no, Literally not to pull triggers when I don’t give him permission, I can’t trust him not to. It was somehow a big f***ing deal. The litaney of excuses this guy made for his son. And yes, his son was 13. But we could have this conversation again in 5 years. It would go the same way.

If my uncle told me not to pull the trigger on a tool when I was 13 and I did when he wasn’t looking. He may have beaten me until I was I unconscious. Maybe I’m the pussy for letting my
Nephews dad defend him and put me in an uncomfortable situation.
 
Sending in SWAT door to door and confiscate all semi automatic guns is out of the question so if you guys want to protect your kids, sending them to school with some high end level IV backpack inserts might not be a bad idea. Why is body armor still banned in CT?
 

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