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Long Range Rifle
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Jose
The advantage of first focal plane scopes is that everything in your field of view (the image and the reticle) are magnified in unison so that the stadia lines (or dots) of the reticle can be used at any magnification. Personally, I've never used one but my next one will be one.
It doesn't matter so long as the windage and elevation adjustments match the reticle subtentions.
If your reticle's stadia are in milliradians, then your scope's adjustments should also be in milliradians. If your reticle's stadia are in minutes of angle, so should your adjustments be.
That is so you can easily transfer any offsets measured with your reticle to your adjustments without having to do unit conversions.
Which AR-10 and which matches? In a high power match, entered as a match rifle, sure, as long as it doesn't have a muzzle brake on it. You'll get your butt kicked by the guys with the space rifles, but have at it.
GunGrey
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been lurking quite a bit over at sniperhide lately, and by lately i mean the last week.
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Jose
Yes, you can shoot it as a "match rifle" (not a service rifle) with iron sights in every NRA highpower course of fire (across the course, mid range prone, long range prone).
The AR-10 is not allowed in CMP matches.
Lots of interesting info over there, spent a lot of my down time reading through the FAQs today.
Trying to move my 1911 to fund the rest of my AR build, then I'm saving up for a 10FCP.
GunGrey
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how big of a deal is it to have a heavy barrel?
I dont plan on shootin fast and i take it theres quite a bit of time between shots. so besides being more rigid is a heavy barrel that big of a deal?
I dont plan on shootin fast and i take it theres quite a bit of time between shots. so besides being more rigid is a heavy barrel that big of a deal?
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Jose
Just try it and find out. At the beginning, the rifle will definitely not be the limiting factor. You will be.
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Jose
Yes, you can shoot in F T/R class during any NRA mid range or long range prone match. But why not add irons and a sling?Thanks. Can you shoot it with glass as in a precision match?
This is not my picture but my setup is very similar:
I have a Nightforce 3.5-15x50 mounted on it.
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I'll give you a hint: I'm blind as a f-ing bat without my glasses and I can shoot 198s and 199s all day long at 600 yards with this iron sighted baby:
The bull on the 600 yard target is 36" across, it is easily seen with the naked eye
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Jose
One in every room
Weaponcraft does, INDEED, have a fine scoped rifle class. It's lead by Sgt William Buhelt, who is the training officer and patrol sgt for the Biddeford PD. He's also the head of their SWAT team. I've watched Bill take long distance shots at lifesize bad guy targets, with him asking, "Right eye or left eye?" He never misses. The class includes training from another military/police sniper instructor. All of our gun instructors are instructors who teach law enforcement and military professionals the crafts of their trade. There are none finer.
We could run a custom class for NES members if we had five or more shooters. We would do the shoot at the Scarborough club (just around the corner from Cabelas).
Please PM me if anyone is specifically interested, and when we get to five, we'll get it in the schedule. NES members get a 10% discount on that class.
Here's the link for the class description:
Scoped Rifle Class Description
We could run a custom class for NES members if we had five or more shooters. We would do the shoot at the Scarborough club (just around the corner from Cabelas).
Please PM me if anyone is specifically interested, and when we get to five, we'll get it in the schedule. NES members get a 10% discount on that class.
Here's the link for the class description:
Scoped Rifle Class Description
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Well maybe not when arriving, but I was thinking more along the lines of transport through other jurisdictions. I always keep things covered so as not to give anyone an excuse, but you never know what can happen.
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It depends on what kind of long range shooting you are going to do. With KD shooting, there is no benefit that I can see to having a FFP reticle. You don't need to range anything.
For KD shooting I think the cluttered reticles are not the best. I have a mil-dot scope and I don't like it for KD shooting. 1/8 min target dot is about the best IMO.
From the NightForce website about the CH-2 reticle.
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So, hypothetically, how's this sound:
Anything I'm obviously missing, other than a way to pay for it? Do I need lasers, clamps, or levels to mount the scope? Any major items a handgun shooter wouldn't have somewhere other than, say, a bore snake?
- Savage 10 HS Precision
- Weaver 3-15x50 30mm Tactical Scope (I like mil-dots)
- Weaver 30mm High Scope rings ("Tactical" or otherwise, does it matter?)
- Weaver Extended Multi-slot base for Savage, Short Action, 20MOA
- Harris Bipod
Anything I'm obviously missing, other than a way to pay for it? Do I need lasers, clamps, or levels to mount the scope? Any major items a handgun shooter wouldn't have somewhere other than, say, a bore snake?
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Lot of good info on this thread I was trying to figure out how far the targets were by the time elapsed between the shot and the clang on the Thunder Valley vids.
I'm sure you weren't trying to be literal but sound travels 1126ft/s (375 yd/s) in air. Wouldn't the clang take 2.13 seconds just to travel back 800 yards ? I was thinking that 800 yards would be closer to 3+ seconds between the shot and the clang. Not trying to be a PITA, just wanted to get my math straight.
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Jose
I trust your math. I just went from memory.
I just did the same thing. I took out my 10/22 tonight for the first time in months, and I remembered how much I enjoyed shooting a scoped rifle. I've been looking at Savage LH rifles. I'm not sure what kind of chambering to go with. Being a lefty is a little limiting in what I can find.
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My stick is back from the gunsmith, re-stocked and repainted. The trigger has been reworked but it's still the usual Howa suck-ass trigger. A 1.5 lb Timney was ordered today to replace it.
I am interested in your advice, but I have a question about the Manners stock and the Howa action. At $450 bucks, is it a drop in stock, or does it require a smith to bed it?
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Jose
It needs to be bedded and the money spent on that is totally worth it.
You'll never get a perfect fit between the two with drop in stocks because of tolerance stack up.
You'll never get a perfect fit between the two with drop in stocks because of tolerance stack up.
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OK, I think you are totally swaying me this way, I was looking at Rem's and Savage's, but I kind of having one built. Are the Howa barreled actions good to go as they come, or do they need to worked over by a smith?
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Jose
Any rifle can be improved by gunsmithing but my particular Howa is shooting very well just as it came and with a good stock, bedding, and trigger. I'd say buy the barreled action, stock it, bed it, put a good trigger in it, then see how it does. If it's still not good enough, then spend money on truing the receiver and maybe rebarreling.
If you do buy a Howa, budget $120 for an aftermarket trigger. My gunsmith tried to save the factory trigger but he said there's not much that can be done and after comparing it to a Timney I agree.
If you do buy a Howa, budget $120 for an aftermarket trigger. My gunsmith tried to save the factory trigger but he said there's not much that can be done and after comparing it to a Timney I agree.
Any words of wisdom about Remington 700 bolts/extractors. I have LOTS of extraction issues with mine.. it will pull the brass out, but tends to frigging spin it in the chamber instead of throwing it out.
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Cool, thanks for the input. I am trying to draw up a budget in my head for this project. I want to learning/shooting in very near future.
