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P3AT. What is close in weight and size?
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iPhone 14 Pro Max and keys were in the opposite pocket, but this is a pointless argument at this point as you aren’t buying anything and the gun you want doesn’t exist
My EDC is a P3AT.... never misfired or FTF. It goes "bang" when I pull the trigger. Its small as f*** and why I use it. If I could carry my 92FS I would but that thing is as big as my dong. Can't fit both in my pants.
Good advice, I think.
What about the LCP II .380?
How does the LCP II .380 differ from the LCP Max .380?
Too many choices.
Thanks. Great to know.
Same weight and size, but 6rd (LCP II) vs. 10rd (LCP Max).
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Max .380 would trump LCP II .380 and .22lr in my opinion.
I own the LCP II .22lr, but have no experience with the .380 in II or MAX configuration.
That said; .380 would be my choice over .22lr for micro-compact personal defense against 2 or 4 legged aggressors.
A 10 round LCP MAX would be my choice over the P3AT...
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Totally agree, LCP in .380 over 22lr all day any day is an easy call. Still not a huge LCP fan, but I have already stated my issues with Kel-Tex
.22 magnum in a NAA revolver if you need really small.
I found out over time, you were right. The LCP improved on the P3AT, and the LCP II improved on that. Now, the LCP Max adds more capacity in the same size. Only thing missing is two more millimeters in cartridge length to make it 9x19. Thanks for your help in here.
In conclusion, the LCP II and LCP Max are the new and improved P3AT, and have taken it about as far as it can get in this round.
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Was just reading:
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That may be well and good. Now, I am wondering if the LCP II/Max will take the +P, and if so, how it feels/shoots. This would pretty much stretch it out to the max, if possible.
If not, what is the next closest ammo choice, that is not a +P?
Finally, I wonder if Ruger will come out with an LCP III, in .30 Super Carry. Better ballistics than .380 (closer to 9mm), and 12 instead of 10 rounds.
An NRA Shooting Sports Journal | .380 Auto +P vs. .30 Super Carry
After Federal’s release of the .30 Super Carry cartridge at SHOT Show 2022, comparisons with the venerable .380 Auto +P soon followed.
That may be well and good. Now, I am wondering if the LCP II/Max will take the +P, and if so, how it feels/shoots. This would pretty much stretch it out to the max, if possible.
If not, what is the next closest ammo choice, that is not a +P?
Finally, I wonder if Ruger will come out with an LCP III, in .30 Super Carry. Better ballistics than .380 (closer to 9mm), and 12 instead of 10 rounds.
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No love for the Kimber Micro Carry? I Always liked those, just haven’t pulled the trigger yet….ahaha…I crack myself up.
My P3AT is one of my least favorite guns to shoot, lol. A two finger grip, and that light weight ensures that you feel every bit of the recoil. It has no sights to speak of, and the DA trigger pull is loooonnnngggg. Having said that, it is just so dang easy to carry, and at 7 yard self defense distances, I can put all 7 rounds in a 6” paper plate. That’s two more rounds than the j frame mentioned in a far more portable package.
I also carry a Ruger LC9s. Better sights, MUCH better trigger. Not as compact as the P3AT, but easy enough to clip into a waistband, and I can ping the flapper all day at 25 yards with it.
Having said all of that, I’m not sure I’d want to take on a pack of coyotes with either of those. Especially at dusk. I’d go with a compact semi auto (glock 19 size) with a light in a fanny pack. My current favorite carry in that size is a M&P Compact 2.0 with an Apex flat face trigger and a Streamlight TLR7. On human size targets, with time to aim, that one is good out to 50 yards. I prolly wouldn’t try to take out a yote at that range while walking my dog, but I would feel far more confident relying on that pistol than either of the other two.
I also carry a Ruger LC9s. Better sights, MUCH better trigger. Not as compact as the P3AT, but easy enough to clip into a waistband, and I can ping the flapper all day at 25 yards with it.
Having said all of that, I’m not sure I’d want to take on a pack of coyotes with either of those. Especially at dusk. I’d go with a compact semi auto (glock 19 size) with a light in a fanny pack. My current favorite carry in that size is a M&P Compact 2.0 with an Apex flat face trigger and a Streamlight TLR7. On human size targets, with time to aim, that one is good out to 50 yards. I prolly wouldn’t try to take out a yote at that range while walking my dog, but I would feel far more confident relying on that pistol than either of the other two.
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I have a box of the Buffalo Bore .380 with hard cast bullets specifically designed for .380 mouse guns. I’ve fired a few rounds through the P3AT just to test function. They go bang, just like every other round I’ve put through that gun, but they make an unpleasant shooting experience downright painful. I carry with one of them in the pipe followed by gold dots in the mag.
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