its as if the law never passed.
keep in mind, it has no affect on what is happening in Illinois, they could both succeed.
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keep in mind, it has no affect on what is happening in Illinois, they could both succeed.
I can’t follow this stuff anymore until someone shares a plain language summary of what we can and can’t have and dates or grandfathering of each…all of a sudden Tavors are illegal in MA? What’s the new deal with ARs?
EJFudd
NES Member
What I want to know is...
Where the HELL are all the lawsuits we were promised???
Where the HELL are all the lawsuits we were promised???
JDL
NES Member
What makes you think Stupidchusetts will comply. They are already saying they will not comply with the new administration regarding illegal migrants.
They did with Bruen, Caetano, and the other federal stuff that people like Comm2a whacked them with.
All the crap about illegals is just virtue signaling from moonbats, in reality they will mostly just step out of the way if the feds actually ever start rounding up illegals for deportation.
Also there's a long MA tradition of leftists being hypocrites. Theres a silent contingent of white lefties that will be secretly happy about illegal brown people getting removed.
the moon bats in the state make a massive sport out of talking about supporting one thing but secretly desiring another.
graphite
NES Member
Well then......Why not follow their lead?!
So they had to not do may issue…big change. Outside of the major cities and a few shitty towns nothing changed.
If you mean the new legislation then yes they did…they threw a retard temper tantrum
This was compliance with Bruen, whether you think of it that way or not. And they did it almost immediately, meekly.
I'm on record repeatedly as saying the new legislation is not serious. It is a virtue signal. It is not going to be meaningfully enforced, and it too will quietly go away someday soon.
Coda
NES Member
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True, but the law is the law, and it is there. They can and will use it against people as best they can.
They can and will use against who they choose to use it against.
View: https://youtu.be/_ibb0rWICP4?si=H4TMklxiteuG0ljq
From what I recall the guilty parties did not serve any time and have no criminal record.
GM-GUY
NES Member
I made a purchase from Primary Arms last night - a set of take down pins (I like to have a spare set of everything), a BCM BCG and a Geissele Trigger (come to find out LaRue doesn't ship to Mass anymore so I figured I'd try new one). Anyway, a new email arrived about item(s) that may be subject to state regulations. Just the BCG & Trigger are listed and I must check a box YES that I will use them in a 'Compliant Manner' or NO and it will cancel my order. I picked Yes.
With no definition of 'Compliant Manner' I'm assuming not making another evil assault weapon. These are just parts for one thing, second - they are going into the parts box for when I may need to replace a part - not making/building anything.
Anyone else see stuff like this on other sites? Target Sports is still the same as always - got some 9mm JHP last week.
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In regards to the idiots blocking the road, push the barrels off to the side, hose them down with water and leave them.
With no definition of 'Compliant Manner' I'm assuming not making another evil assault weapon. These are just parts for one thing, second - they are going into the parts box for when I may need to replace a part - not making/building anything.
Anyone else see stuff like this on other sites? Target Sports is still the same as always - got some 9mm JHP last week.
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In regards to the idiots blocking the road, push the barrels off to the side, hose them down with water and leave them.
If they ever do? Wake me up then.
They won't. There's already a laundry list of provisions under that new law that the state is telling itself not to bother enforcing. A lot of the rest is de facto delayed indefinitely because it cannot be followed.
Coda
NES Member
Yup, most likely it will be used to add on charges to jam up the guy with no LTC, who already has some kind of criminal record.
But you never know when they will want to make an example of some poor slob who thought he was flying under the radar.
GM-GUY
NES Member
I remember the first guy bagged on the mandatory one year handgun law - he had a BB gun,
the real wood version they used to sell. They will send a message given a chance.
the real wood version they used to sell. They will send a message given a chance.
pastera
NES Member
Canjura
State case that creates a framework to implement Bruen for switchblades.
Directly applicable to firearms and binding on state courts.
The opinion is written in such a way that it would be hard for a lower court to work around it.
Coda
NES Member
Never said it wasn’t compliance
I’m saying it’s minuscule at best, it wasn’t a real big change… real compliance will be what they do if/when AWB is ruled unconstitutional.
I disagree entirely. The state has no intention to jam up criminals. That’s the demographic that they answer to. The intention is to curb lawful and peaceful gun ownership. That’s the demographic that is their opposition.
Selective enforcementYup, most likely it will be used to add on charges to jam up the guy with no LTC, who already has some kind of criminal record.
But you never know when they will want to make an example of some poor slob who thought he was flying under the radar.
This place is full of so many pantshitters the minute one dude gets nailed for anything under the new law they will scurry to their holes
alan226
NES Member
Just look at Marthas Vineyard. In and out in like 48 hoursThey did with Bruen, Caetano, and the other federal stuff that people like Comm2a whacked them with.
All the crap about illegals is just virtue signaling from moonbats, in reality they will mostly just step out of the way if the feds actually ever start rounding up illegals for deportation.
Also there's a long MA tradition of leftists being hypocrites. Theres a silent contingent of white lefties that will be secretly happy about illegal brown people getting removed.
Same thing with a recent PA order for a trigger and lower parts. Looks like a big CYA on their part, at least they are shipping here.
It's not that all uncommon though. Some well known vendors will want your LTC on file to ship certain parts / components.
Lawsuits require plaintiffs, those with standing. And it's not good enough that the law be unconstitutional, even if it's obviously so. Someone has to suffer because of it. And with the delays in enforcement, and the confusion also delaying enforcement, and people generally don't want to get arrested and spend time in jail. All this will make getting good plantiffs.What I want to know is...
Where the HELL are all the lawsuits we were promised???
It shouldn't be this way, we should be able to challenge a law based on what would happen if it was enforced.
cockpitbob
NES Member
During black Friday I ordered one of PA's $150 uppers and a bunch of other stuff for about 50% off. Mixed in with the confirmation emails that I ignored was that one asking me to promise to obey the law. After a week they cancelled my order. Everything had gone back up to 100%.
pastera
NES Member
If SCOTUS rules features based bans unconstitutional, Mass will no choice but to comply.
They could try to enforce but that would end up costing the state and the person doing the enforcement - a clear violation of a Supreme Court opinion on an enumerated right would immediately pierce qualified immunity.
That’s why I said it is the real test
Going from May issue to shall issue was a very small change. Outside the big cities and a handful of shitty towns it was business as usual.
pastera
NES Member
Did you read Canjura?
That was the real test - When the Mass SJC writes an opinion like that when they had H4885 in hand says that they know the game is lost and the clock is running short.
A lot of people on NES have this fascination with getting butt fck'd by the state and won't accept major wins unless every Mass gun law is struck down at once and the local chief cleans their guns while fellating them.
