The Conference Committee has sent official language out - h.4885

@pastera subsections (a)-(g)


SECTION 16. Said section 121 of said chapter 140, as so appearing, is hereby further amended by striking out the definition of “Assault weapon” and inserting in place thereof the following 5 definitions:-

“Assault-style firearm”, any firearm which is:

(a) a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip; (iii) a forward grip or second handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor or muzzle break or similar feature; or (v) a shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer’s hand from heat, excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.


(b) a semiautomatic pistol with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) the capacity to accept a feeding device that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer; or (iv) a shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer’s hand from heat, excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.


(c) a semiautomatic shotgun that includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip; (iii) a protruding grip for the non-trigger hand; or (iv) the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device.


(d) Any firearm listed on the assault-style firearm roster pursuant to section 128A.


(e) Any of the following firearms, or copies or duplicates of these firearms, of any caliber, identified as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov, or AK, all models; (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta AR70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vii) Steyr AUG; (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns including, but not limited to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;


(f) a copy or duplicate of any firearm meeting the standards of or enumerated in clauses (d) and (e); provided, that for the purposes of this subsection, “copy or duplicate” shall mean a firearm: (A) that was manufactured or subsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine; and (B)(i) that has internal functional components that are substantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an enumerated firearm in clauses (d) and (e); or (ii) that has a receiver that is the same as or interchangeable with the receiver of an enumerated firearm in said clauses (d) and (e); provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016


(g) “Assault-style firearm” shall not include any: (i) firearm that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (ii) firearm that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated as a semiautomatic assault-style firearm; (iii) firearm that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other firearm that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional firearm and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an assault-style firearm; (iv) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of such firearms, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993; or (v) semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable feeding device.
 
Section 131M(e) excludes manufacturers from ASF possession but not dealers so no dealer in Mass can sell to a police department or officer even though it is legal for the departments and officers to possess them. This will be solved through selective prosecution so that "approved" dealers will be allowed to supply the state and cities.

The key point for manufacturers is that they cannot legally sell or transfer in state and they cannot legally import. See below.


(iii) a federally licensed manufacturer solely for sale or transfer in another state or for export.
 
@pastera subsections (a)-(g)


SECTION 16. Said section 121 of said chapter 140, as so appearing, is hereby further amended by striking out the definition of “Assault weapon” and inserting in place thereof the following 5 definitions:-

“Assault-style firearm”, any firearm which is:

(a) a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip; (iii) a forward grip or second handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor or muzzle break or similar feature; or (v) a shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer’s hand from heat, excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.


(b) a semiautomatic pistol with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device and includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) the capacity to accept a feeding device that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer; or (iv) a shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer’s hand from heat, excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.


(c) a semiautomatic shotgun that includes at least 2 of the following features: (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip; (iii) a protruding grip for the non-trigger hand; or (iv) the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device.


(d) Any firearm listed on the assault-style firearm roster pursuant to section 128A.


(e) Any of the following firearms, or copies or duplicates of these firearms, of any caliber, identified as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov, or AK, all models; (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta AR70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vii) Steyr AUG; (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns including, but not limited to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;


(f) a copy or duplicate of any firearm meeting the standards of or enumerated in clauses (d) and (e); provided, that for the purposes of this subsection, “copy or duplicate” shall mean a firearm: (A) that was manufactured or subsequently configured with an ability to accept a detachable magazine; and (B)(i) that has internal functional components that are substantially similar in construction and configuration to those of an enumerated firearm in clauses (d) and (e); or (ii) that has a receiver that is the same as or interchangeable with the receiver of an enumerated firearm in said clauses (d) and (e); provided further, that the firearm shall not be considered a copy or duplicate of a firearm identified in clauses (d) and (e) if sold, owned and registered prior to July 20, 2016


(g) “Assault-style firearm” shall not include any: (i) firearm that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (ii) firearm that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated as a semiautomatic assault-style firearm; (iii) firearm that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other firearm that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional firearm and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an assault-style firearm; (iv) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of such firearms, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993; or (v) semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable feeding device.
Those are definitions so they don't prohibit anything.
 
The key point for manufacturers is that they cannot legally sell or transfer in state and they cannot legally import. See below.


(iii) a federally licensed manufacturer solely for sale or transfer in another state or for export.
Concur - no mere moral can get ASFs so it only effects police both departments and personally
But because police can legally own an ASF then an out of state dealer can transfer
 
Those are definitions so they don't prohibit anything.
The definition and prohibition are in the law so it doesn’t matter whether one is defining while the other prohibits. That is not the point I’m making.

The bottom line is this law is the most restrictive, unconstitutional, anti-2a feculent laden and vomit inducing bill to date which is not gonna age well.

Everything is now illegal and while risk is now enhanced greatly upon every gun owner in this state so it doesn’t matter what one chooses to do. The best choice is to live free.
 
Concur - no mere moral can get ASFs so it only effects police both departments and personally
But because police can legally own an ASF then an out of state dealer can transfer
Transfer where though? Unless another carve out letter by EOPSS gets sent…..
 
Transfer where though? Unless another carve out letter by EOPSS gets sent…..
You can purchase long guns in states other than your residence as long as it is legal for you possess in your home state. So police can purchase ASFs out of state if they want one.
 
Not 100% true. In MA, if you've never had a license to drive or your license to drive is expired, then you can legally drive on private property including your own (as long as the public does not have access as licensees or invitees, such as in a mall parking lot). However, if your license to drive has been suspended or revoked, then you are not allowed to operate a motor vehicle anywhere in the Commonwealth, including on your own property and it's an arrestable criminal offense.

Can you cite that?
 
Holy crap, that's seriously f***ed up.
Back when Six Flags New England was Riverside Park in Agawam, it had a 1/4 mile racetrack. As you can imagine, several of the local racers would often get into trouble outside the venue with their personal vehicles and get their licenses suspended or revoked. Agawam PD would go to the track and if they saw any of the drivers they knew were suspended on the program for a given race night, they'd wait for them to get in the car and drive onto the track and then arrest them when they finished.
 
Back when Six Flags New England was Riverside Park in Agawam, it had a 1/4 mile racetrack. As you can imagine, several of the local racers would often get into trouble outside the venue with their personal vehicles and get their licenses suspended or revoked. Agawam PD would go to the track and if they saw any of the drivers they knew were suspended on the program for a given race night, they'd wait for them to get in the car and drive onto the track and then arrest them when they finished.

This can't possibly be what the legislators intended when they wrote the law. This seems like another "shitty writing by people who don't understand how laws work" example.
 
Is a post ban "hi cap" illegal if I keep it at home and only at the range?

Sounds like my stock in mags went down.
 
Don't say I didn't warn any of you all. My post got laughed at and locked...

I bought a lot of shit over the last 12-18 months in preparation and I'm sure glad i did.
None of this is news, and honestly the warning shot goes back much further than that. More like 2016.
... and yet we still see members crying that they missed out because they waited until early-October to start their shopping. :oops: WTF??? [slap]
 
None of this is news, and honestly the warning shot goes back much further than that. More like 2016.

Yep, anyone who was into guns, and did not have their head in the sand, should have been getting what they wanted long before the past year or two (if they were not recent/new license holders). 2016's bullshit should definitely have been the "tipping point" in anyone's mind, not waiting until the real laws hit the books.
 
And then there are some of us older guys that did not have to start shopping, because we did our shopping years ago. [thumbsup]
This never was really the issue, it’s the new shooters. It’s the people trying to schedule a safety class now and submit their application. They’re the ones really getting screwed and this is meant to cause gun ownership to die generationally.
 
This never was really the issue, it’s the new shooters. It’s the people trying to schedule a safety class now and submit their application. They’re the ones really getting screwed and this is meant to cause gun ownership to die generationally.
The post I was replying to was regarding purchases before the new laws went into effect. Applications and safety classes are another subject.

I totally understand the younger generations are getting screwed harder than the older guys.

I guess the next thing to come is the "OK Boomer" blast. 😩
 
The post I was replying to was regarding purchases before the new laws went into effect. Applications and safety classes are another subject.

I totally understand the younger generations are getting screwed harder than the older guys.

I guess the next thing to come is the "OK Boomer" blast. 😩

If they are young and don't have a decades living/getting established in MA, they would be much smarter to GTFO IMO. I'm 57 and near to retirement, should have gotten out in my 20s or 30s at the latest and established a life elsewhere. Too many good friends, and family of course, to move now, plus as you get older the health care and particularly hospitals in MA (Boston specifically) are hard to beat.
 
If they are young and don't have a decades living/getting established in MA, they would be much smarter to GTFO IMO. I'm 57 and near to retirement, should have gotten out in my 20s or 30s at the latest and established a life elsewhere. Too many good friends, and family of course, to move now, plus as you get older the health care and particularly hospitals in MA (Boston specifically) are hard to beat.
Yup......... I am in the same situation.

But there will still be some that call us stupid for staying.
 
Yup......... I am in the same situation.

But there will still be some that call us stupid for staying.

Yup, but, as I am sure you understand, no one really knows anyone's particular situation and what is most important in their lives. I truly like where I live and the property, etc. that I own, I have invested a lot of blood, sweat, and tears, giving it up now, this close to retirement, would not be easy and I have a feeling (actually I know) I would regret it in the long run. I am right in the middle of life long friends as well as family, that is most important to me.
 
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