Ok how many people vote in m*******?
some just can't pay for this hobby
some are misinformed
But to say the majority don't like gun I think is wrong
With you.
This bill may not give us every thing we want, but it is a start. And winning our rights back has always been about the long game.
It takes a little, it gives us more than a little. I consider it an overall win. However, we do lose some, which is not nice. We need to do a T chart with pluses for our side and minuses for our side, then one of pluses for their side and minuses for their side.
The language that they applied to the FID is what I and several others were trying to get attached to the LTC, knowing we would not get shall issue.
I? I? Imagine your letters and calls, times 20, 60, 200 the volume. Ya gotta let people know.
This is an area in which we could use some improvement.
C O M M U N I C A T I O N S
How many petitions can be filed on Jan second?
Hit the courts with five thousand people who are restricted only because of where they live.
How many Boston residents can we get on board to use the commissioners words against him?
How many LTC-B's are there in MA?
1.Do we have anything that resembles a plan to win elections in November?
2. A plan to "educate some of the fudds and general public.
3. A plan to raise money for pro 2A candiadates.
4. A plan to keep the pro 2A candiates in office?
5. I think we have momentum going for ( not against ) us .
6. Do we have aplan to captialize on our momentum?
Open to sugesstions.
1.
Massachusetts Pro Liberty Candidates
2. Working on this.
3. see 1.
4. see 1.
5. yes
6. not yet. need to do this!
Yes, I agree. Here's the thing: The courts have never ruled on these issues, so there really isn't a right, just some assumptions under which we've been living. As the statists have been intruding on those assumptions with laws, we as a nation have been taking it and taking it until just the last handful of years.
Currently (and please, if I'm factually wrong somebody please correct me) there is only case law from SCOTUS that says handguns in the home are an individual right of all citizens. Not long guns. Not outside the home. Some meddling around the edges about guns in common usage that I haven't looked into at all. That's pretty much it.
Nobody is going to legally recognize our rights that come to us from our Creator. We have to force them to. For the children.
ETA: This is why, in the most perverse and ironical way possible, that Chitcago, California, Washington DC, Massachusetts and the rest of the oppressive states are actually going to be the cradle of liberty in this area. The free staters who are so vocal on NES are the ones living in the states who are and will be doing absolutely nothing in this fight.
It's mind blowing when you think about it.
Now, THIS is where the word ironic might be more fitting.
This post says that SCOTUS qualified the 2A as a collective right of the people for the common defense of the country. Recent law made it a right to keep and bear for personal defense. In order to challenge this law, a person needs to be charged with violating it. The circumstances surrounding that alleged violation need to be benign to the case. The person charged has to be willing to fight the charges and go to jail if he loses and not plea bargain down to something like a storage violation. The person has to be found guilty. The person has to appeal. That's my understanding.
It's hard to come up with a person so willing to fight the good fight who is squeaky clean that he walks into a police station carrying an unloaded brand new weapon with one too many killy features that he obtained legally somehow or built himself, and subject himself to the legal process.
You up for that challenge?
I'd say it is getting close to that for some or maybe even many people. Really.
Exactly, the MA SJC refuses to recognize the McDonald or Heller decisions. They do not recognize that the 2A is an individual right via the 14th.
So, how do we turn this around then?
