3/27/23 Nashville School Shooting

[MaverickNH]

This is like Jihadis complaining about a "backlash" whenever they do Jihad against some infidels.

I get your point. But might suggest it’s more like the Muslim town residents fearing backlash when the Jihadi element does some Jihad against the infidels. The town will be leveled and they’ll be dead or refugees, while the Jihadists slip away the night before.

If the Trans population is even as much at 0.3%, that’s ~1 million people. While many may be conversing live and online, we’re seeing the posts selected by social media to inflame sentiments.

I’d say most Trans folks are sensitive - some hypersensitive - to social issues surrounding being Trans. The kids playing Trans wanna-bes make as much or more noise than the “real” Trans activists, but many in the middle just want to go about their lives with some measure of acceptance.

From the Trans (and whole LGBTQAI+ perspective) it’s hard to see and draw some satisfaction from the idea that in America they can actually exist publicly and politically without being hunted down and jailed/killed, as they are in most of the world. It doesn’t feel like liberty, freedom and justice, but it’s about the best there is to be had.

 

[paul73]

The early word was that this shooter attended this school and had a rough time. I'm not sure this was motivated by a "grudge against a church," or against Christianity per se, except in the sense that this particular school happened to be run by a church.

That is an elementary school- up to 6th grade. What rough time can it be? For a 28 yr old, with a ‘manifesto’?

No one wants to run a political terror angle, but it is exactly that.

 

[In God We Trust]

That was textbook. Now you know why so many people are pissed at everyone over Uvalde. That is how my guys trained, and still failed to take the lead when others hesitated.

Yep. First 2 people on scene are the entry team. If you have more, awesome, but as soon as there are 2, you go in.

It’s what you signed up for and you nut up and take the shooter down.

 

[FalArAk]

From the Trans (and whole LGBTQAI+ perspective) it’s hard to see and draw some satisfaction from the idea that in America they can actually exist publicly and politically without being hunted down and jailed/killed, as they are in most of the world. It doesn’t feel like liberty, freedom and justice, but it’s about the best there is to be had.

So I guess we can add paranoid and delusional to their resume of mental illnesses?

Where is the freedom to not care about Trans people?

I literally DO NOT CARE about them, just like I DO NOT CARE about other groups of people, live and let live. They are forcing a decision by forcing their agenda down everybody's throats.

It is literally insane trying to pacify a group of insane people.

 

[SgtHal75]

The true answer is - I believe - to train at least some of the teachers in the school to be able to respond effectively - which would also mean allowing them to have guns. One of the things I thought was interesting about the video they released - was how long it took to even find the shooter. Even if that school had ONE "resource officer" available - the shooter still could have done a lot of damage before that person even got there - if they weren't right there in the section of the building where the shooter entered.

Go read the book "Terror at Beslan" - the incident was evaluated by special forces types from over here - (who were let in by the Russians BTW - so they could share knowledge about what happened there). And in the book the conclusion they came to was that just having one or two officers wasn't going to cut it - the school staff as a whole needed to have a better response than just hiding in their rooms.

Yes, I’m totally on board with every teacher packing

 

[T-Unit]

In case you haven't noticed, a majority of the trans community is taking up arms and ready to "defend" themselves.. in this case defend doesn't mean a physical threat, they are violently defending their way of life against people who they deem as anti or phobic. They suffer from mental disorders, and with the help from politicians and able to mobilize with like mined in Antifa, they have become emboldened.

Make no mistakes, they want to kill those who choose not to participate in their disorder.

The trans community is being led to believe that there is some identifiable, geniune, and imminent threat against them. Their identity is their life, thus rejection of their identity is viewed as a belief they have no right to life. This paranoia is being made worse by a media and political ideology inciting panic and telling them to fight back, that it's okay to use physical violence on people for merely using wrong pronouns.

To them, misgendering is like calling a Black person a n****r right to their face.

The trans community needs to grow up, there should be trans people within the community speaking out and telling others that violence isn't acceptable. Where are they? Caitlyn Jenner could be someone who takes center stage as a trans spokesperson to denounce this shooting and change the culture within the community.

 

[Coyote33]

Listening to a liberal hack who pretends to be centrist on the local radio today and he's saying how it's "always the same type of guns" the implication being semi autos.

So, semi autos are now being targeted and it's only a matter of time before Cali, NY/NJ pass a semiautomatic ban.

You forgot MA.

 

[Coyote33]

The Glow Units generally don't use any of the protected classes for this stuff. Given the trans bills that were moving thru TN legislature I think that was the motivation for the shooter.

Gonna need a translator here.

 

[FalArAk]

Gonna need a translator here.

Mk Ultra is not in play here.

 

[robjax]

That was textbook. Now you know why so many people are pissed at everyone over Uvalde. That is how my guys trained, and still failed to take the lead when others hesitated.

I am not sticking up for the officers in uvalde. But this engagement scenario is a lot different.

The shooter in uvalde was barricaded in a room with live children using them as a shield.

The shooter in uvalde had the superior position.

This idiot was out in the open alone with no cover and minimal risk for collateral damage.

The two engagement scenarios are completely different.

This response may have been text book. But that is only because the shooter afforded them that opportunity in this case.

 

[Coyote33]

Mk Ultra is not in play here.

Sorry, I have a Braun, but I usually use a disposable razor with shaving cream.

 

[MG2112]

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[HARRYM]

I am not sticking up for the officers in uvalde. But this engagement scenario is a lot different.

The shooter in uvalde was barricaded in a room with live children using them as a shield.

The shooter in uvalde had the superior position.

This idiot was out in the open alone with no cover and minimal risk for collateral damage.

The two engagement scenarios are completely different.

This response may have been text book. But that is only because the shooter afforded them that opportunity in this case.

Not even close. One group went in and one did not. They had no idea in Nashville where the hell the shooter was. Sure, eventually tracked her down in an open area but it could have just as easily been a barricaded area. They went in, the Uvalde crew did not.

 

[pastera]

with the highly unlikely probability a school shooting will ever happen, an untrained teacher carrying a gun everyday around children may be a greater threat of harm

We do background checks for the first 2 on all teachers, do we not? We do for parents involved in the school

When a kid is in your classroom who is responsible for them, Who has custody during that time……. If it is the teacher or their employer the choice is not 100% yours

Not a single person has said untrained persons should be used to protect schools.
As far as a teacher carrying every day, so what. How does that make them less safe?
Not certain what your comment on background checks even means.

When your child is in school it is still YOU who is responsible for YOUR child.
If you don't trust the school then YOU should man up and make whatever sacrifice is necessary to make your child safe.
The choice is yours even if you abdicate it to an untrustworthy system.

 

[Tartakovsky]

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How about someone just being severely mentally ill?

 

[FalArAk]

How about someone just being severely mentally ill?

Pretty sure the PC thing is that trans people are not mentally ill, or at least that is what the media and the alphabet mafia is trying to condition everybody to think.

 

[MaverickNH]

So I guess we can add paranoid and delusional to their resume of mental illnesses?

Where is the freedom to not care about Trans people?

I literally DO NOT CARE about them, just like I DO NOT CARE about other groups of people, live and let live. They are forcing a decision by forcing their agenda down everybody's throats.

It is literally insane trying to pacify a group of insane people.

I can't disagree with you wrt "forcing their agenda" - that's the activists. The silent majority of them certainly don't oppose Drag Story Hour at the library. That's group pressure, I guess. Their tactic of "normalizing" themselves in society by starting with young children is atrocious - they had to know that would galvanize many against them.

Insane? Perhaps by some definitions. Delusional? At least that, to think their tactics would succeed. As you say, just live and let live - I don't need to watch them live or celebrate them, specifically. I'll just celebrate that America isn't the kind of place that rounds them up for jail, torture and death.

 

[Palladin]

There was a comment in this thread that I really liked, but I can't find it. Something about "because you choose to be transgender, don't expect me to condone your mental illness"

 

[Rockrivr1]

Seen a repeated tv report about a lady buying her kids bullet proof back packs last night. It’s unfortunate we live in a world where that is needed. Not a bad idea but can’t imagine how heavy it is for young kids though.

 

[heck ya beaches]

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Seen a repeated tv report about a lady buying her kids bullet proof back packs last night. It’s unfortunate we live in a world where that is needed. Not a bad idea but can’t imagine how heavy it is for young kids though.

I used to think that the "slippery slope" was bullshit, but if trannies were considered too insane to own firearms, 2 families would have tucked their babies into bed last night.

 

[VTski4x4]

I am not sticking up for the officers in uvalde. But this engagement scenario is a lot different.

The shooter in uvalde was barricaded in a room with live children using them as a shield.

The shooter in uvalde had the superior position.

This idiot was out in the open alone with no cover and minimal risk for collateral damage.

The two engagement scenarios are completely different.

This response may have been text book. But that is only because the shooter afforded them that opportunity in this case.

Uvalde had a sniper shot setup within minutes and didn't take it.

 

[T-Unit]

Pretty sure the PC thing is that trans people are not mentally ill, or at least that is what the media an alphabet agency is trying to condition everybody to think.

Some trans are very normal, not mentally ill people, but a large, and very vocal segment are hideous, Socialist creatures that look like they were spawned from Hell itself.

And there's also a growing number of those who are coming out as trans who aren't, but are being indoctrinated at a young age into believing that they are by terrible forces because now speaking out against said indoctrination in schools gets a potential Waco style response by the FBI.

As we all know, we don't want a dead wife., so people are choosing to stay silent at the schoolboard meetings now.

 

[Grendizer138]

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I mean, the J6’ers didn’t kill anyone, so yeah.

 

[FalArAk]

I can't disagree with you wrt "forcing their agenda" - that's the activists. The silent majority of them certainly don't oppose Drag Story Hour at the library. That group pressure, I guess. Their tactic of "normalizing" themselves in society by starting with young children is atrocious - they had to know that would galvanize many against them.

Insane? Perhaps by some definitions. Delusional? At least that, to think their tactics would succeed. As you say, just live and let live - I don't need to watch them live or celebrate them, specifically. I'll just celebrate that America isn't the kind of place that rounds them up for jail, torture and death.

They aren't insane by any stretch.

They have a disorder and for whatever reason have been convinced that their disorder is "normal". When someone goes against that narrative, they get defensive and with the help of politicians and the media, they are acting outside the lines of decency (antifa)

Drag shows have been a thing since I can remember, for adults. There are nightclubs that cater to this entertainment, and nobody cared, or at least I didn't or anybody that I knew.

Now they are bringing the shows to children, grooming them. Denying this fact and making counter accusations of phobic" or "intolerant" is a tactic the alphabet mafia uses marginalize any dissent..

 

[AMV]

Not a single person has said untrained persons should be used to protect schools.
As far as a teacher carrying every day, so what. How does that make them less safe?
Not certain what your comment on background checks even means.

When your child is in school it is still YOU who is responsible for YOUR child.
If you don't trust the school then YOU should man up and make whatever sacrifice is necessary to make your child safe.
The choice is yours even if you abdicate it to an untrustworthy system.

Did your receive a cori check when you were hired? That would ensure you are not a known criminal or abuser of children.

Just because you have an LTC and took a safety course dose not mean you know how to handle a gun. Police AD/ ND all the time

You are working so some standards from your employer can be put in place
The guy working at 7-11 or Cumberland farms is more likely to get shot. But he is not allowed to carry a gun either per company policy. I have had jobs where I was not allowed. I do believe you should be able to. The only way that would even be remotely possible for you would be to be properly trained and vetted
I do believe citizens should be able to enter school with a weapon if properly licensed, but they are not on the clock and have no obligation to the school.

 

[PioneerHD]

Tucker: The Nashville school shooting happened due to deranged ideology | Fox News Video

WARNING: Graphic content—Fox News host Tucker Carlson reacts to the Nashville school shooting on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'

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[FalArAk]

Some trans are very normal, not mentally ill people,

Define normal lol

Everybody has a different definition of normal, but IMO normal isn't cutting off your dick and wearing a wig. Certain groups may want us to believe it is normal, but no way..

Seen a guy last week working at BestBuy in Nashua.. Long green or purple hair, fake breasts(maybe real, don't care) and a beard and wearing a bunch of rouge, looking like a deranged JW Gacey clown.. I don't care what anybody says, that dude has some serious mental problems and maybe when society starts addressing it as a mental disorder instead of coddling them and telling them they are special and normal, he can get the help he needs.

Bottom line was most of society was live and let live, right up until the point the alphabet mafia decided to try and change everybody's minds through brute force(antifa) indoctrination and grooming(schools and drag shows)

 

[Palladin]

 

[Toast]

I am a taxpayer sending my kids to school I would like to know the people they are dealing with are not pedofiles, criminals and can shoot good....... i am pretty sure as a teacher you have been vetted for the first 2

Case study in how you can prove you haven't been paying attention without saying you haven't been paying attention.

 

[PioneerHD]

The LGBTTTTQP+ community needs to be held accountable, they created this monster. They should be rounded up and sent away. We can't tolerate this kind of Hate & violence in our communities.
We need accountability.