Emergency Preamble to be signed Weds?

Dennis in MA said:
So where do I go to register all of my semi-autos and hicap mags? LOL
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The way I interpret the new law: You can't. As soon as she signs there is no more FA10 or registration or engraving SN until the State gets its sh*t together and after that there will be a certain amount of time to register builds.

So, technically, you can build a Glock tomorrow and can't register or serialize the gun for the next year or 2.

That is my interpretation. I am not a lawyer. I am only a NES certified online expert, but that doesn't cover law.
 
Ok, my town clerk certified, with their 4 different registrar signatures, my petition. But then gave it back to me and said I must deliver it myself to Boston. :(

Can I drop if off with a local Needham area Civil Rights Coalition office?

I will drop it off at B&K or gafArmsTec, thanks.
 
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Broc Tuah said:
My thought. Just like the new training requirement.

It will most likely get killed or delayed until the State can come up with whatever f*cking requirements and tests they need to approve the rifles.
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You won't see any long guns for a long time if they have to be submitted for testing like handguns.
 
Broc Tuah said:
My thought. Just like the new training requirement.

It will most likely get killed or delayed until the State can come up with whatever f*cking requirements and tests they need to approve the rifles.
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And their grandfathering of existing licenses shows that they don't actually believe that the training is actually necessary for safety.
The requirements call out that:
2414 ... Said report shall include, but not be limited to, any recommendations to ensure that such training does not become cost prohibitive and that resources and facilities to conduct such training are adequate and reasonably available to individuals in all regions of the state.
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Since the changes were designed to do the exact opposite of this, I can see it getting killed early.

1564 Section 131P. (a) Any person applying for the issuance of a license or card under sections 129B, 131 or 131F shall, in addition to the requirements set forth in this chapter, submit to the licensing authority a basic firearms safety certificate; provided, however, that a certificate issued under section 14 of chapter 131 evidencing satisfactory completion of a hunter education course shall serve as a valid substitute for a basic firearms safety certificate required under this section for the issuance of a firearm identification card pursuant to section 129B.
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Since an FID actually doesn't require a live fire if you use a hunter safety course then why would a person need to retrain?
 
Just left Randy's at the Mill a little over an hour ago. Picked up a few trinkets. Some nice CZ's going out the door. It was not crowded but busy. He's got a few Aero's left in anodized color. I got the next to last one in black. Also got a Beretta A300 patrol ( He said he had a good supply ) and a Ruger Max 9. Guessing it will pick up as the day goes along. Good day to get out and get some stuff.
 
pastera said:
Pursuant to the Act dealers may only transfer firearms on the rosters - and there are zero long guns on the rosters.
EOPS doesn't get to declare something legal that the legislature has banned.
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Thus begins the tap dancing and cross-pointing that we all knew would be the outcome of this confusing and contradictory trash legislation. Massachusetts lawmakers are incapable of doing it any other way.

Besides, the benefit of laws that are inexplicable is that they can mean anything convenient to the government, at any moment. Orwell was dead right.
 
pastera said:
Pursuant to the Act dealers may only transfer firearms on the rosters - and there are zero long guns on the rosters.
EOPS doesn't get to declare something legal that the legislature has banned.
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They are putting their official position out there because they realize that a full ban would absolutely get obliterated in court, ......but they know some dealers will sell like nothing ever happened, some dealers will just fold, and some dealers will be chicken shit and wait it out til the roster is in, if that ever happens.

Cause confusion, stave off the eventual lawsuits as much as possible. In the interim half the dealers go away, and pantshitters just stop buying guns.
 
zork51 said:
Just left Randy's at the Mill a little over an hour ago. Picked up a few trinkets. Some nice CZ's going out the door. It was not crowded but busy. He's got a few Aero's left in anodized color. I got the next to last one in black. Also got a Beretta A300 patrol ( He said he had a good supply ) and a Ruger Max 9. Guessing it will pick up as the day goes along. Good day to get out and get some stuff.
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I just left the mill as well, there was a line about 3 deep in the hallway at dean safety, one person at the one that’s always open in the middle of the stairs but quiet
 
So does the edict from eops include new regulatory shit on frames as well? Of course God only knows if this is something that any dealer would trust or if they're going to rely on an estoppel defense
 
OK... here's the plan...

- Say three Hail Mary's and make a sign of the cross

- Throw some salt over your shoulder

- Keep your toes crossed

- Wave a dead cat over your head at midnight in a graveyard

- Do not, under any circumstances, open an umbrella inside your house

- Knock on wood

- Avoid walking under a ladder

And ignore this POS law...
 
richc said:
OK... here's the plan...

- Say three Hail Mary's and make a sign of the cross

- Throw some salt over your shoulder

- Keep your toes crossed

- Wave a dead cat over your head at midnight in a graveyard

- Do not, under any circumstances, open an umbrella inside your house

- Knock on wood

- Avoid walking under a ladder

And ignore this POS law...
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In times like these beetle juice would be more appropriate.

View: https://youtu.be/MRYB8BBBs9E?si=tMOnp2KsOhOtgXw8
 
Ron Jablonski said:
Good luck with that
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See Pastera’s post below. That’s what they just did. Law says all firearms need to be on the roster.
pastera said:
Pursuant to the Act dealers may only transfer firearms on the rosters - and there are zero long guns on the rosters.
EOPS doesn't get to declare something legal that the legislature has banned.
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For what its worth. This is the email I got from GOAL

October 2, 2024 – Gun Owners’ Action League
Healey Signs Emergency Order to Bypass the People’s Voice
GOAL Prepared to Take Immediate Legal Action
For at least the second time in her career, Governor Maura Healey is about to make hundreds of thousands of citizens into “felons in waiting”.
On July 20, 2016, Maura Healey woke up and held a press conference that changed 18 years of settled law by reinterpreting a single word. That word was “copy”. In an instant, and with no warning, she turned endless thousands of the 2A community into felons in waiting. While she never prosecuted any License to Carry holders, much to the chagrin of the Boston Globe, the weight of a ten-year felony hung over innocent citizens.
Eight years later, almost to the day, Healey signed H.4885 into law (Chapter 135 of the Acts of 2024). The final language of the bill was kept secret until the night before the legislature voted on it. Within a few days, Healey signed into law what would become the worst attack on civil rights in modern U.S. history.
As a result of this historic assault on civil rights, an effort was undertaken to bring a repeal of the law before the citizens of the Commonwealth. If enough signatures were gathered, the entire law would have been suspended until a referendum was placed before the voters in November of 2026. Because it was clear that volunteers were well on their way to collect the tens of thousands of signatures necessary, the Governor pulled a very rare maneuver. The radical move was to attach an emergency order to the new law and thus circumventing its suspension, regardless of the will of the people.

“Ever since this tantrum against the Supreme Court decision Bruen started last year, the so-called ‘process’ has become even more putrid,” said Jim Wallace, Executive Director of GOAL. “At every turn, the legislature and now the Governor, have avoided honest public input, especially from the 2A community. We are the only stakeholders involved and there is a consistent effort to silence our voices and mislead the general public.”
Knowing the history of Governor Healey, GOAL had already begun to draft a complaint to go before a Federal Court. We hope the court will take this up immediately, and place an injunction on any enforcement.

Updates will be posted on our website at www.goal.org/legal

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pastera said:
Pursuant to the Act dealers may only transfer firearms on the rosters - and there are zero long guns on the rosters.
EOPS doesn't get to declare something legal that the legislature has banned.
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I thought the rosters only apply to semi's, is it really ALL long guns?

The Guida letter says unless they are prohibited they are ok to sell...
 

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