Imagine all the 06FFLs around the state... That's going to put them out of business...
But then, that's really what they want.
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Massachusetts Micro-Stamping Bill: Providing For Encoding of Ammunition!
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Imagine all the 06FFLs around the state... That's going to put them out of business...
But then, that's really what they want.
Would cause a glut of "Mass Surplus Ammo" in neighboring states where they could still legally buy it.
All we have to do is drive across the line and buy it by the railroad car.
You wouldn't even need to worry about paying with Cash, as all the gunshops I go to the Credit Card recipt just says "X Shop, $X Charge" and no items listed.
Yep, I just bought $2000 worth of Bore Brushes and M Pro 7
![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
I'm with the rest of you, I can't imagine this having ANY chance of passing.
Still doesn't mean I won't be watching its progress and writing letters.
calsdad
NES Member
The way laws like this are written they push even law abiding people closer and closer to actually being a criminal.
These morons are killing my savings. Every time they propose another one of these stupid laws I feel the moral obligation to protest it by putting my money where my mouth is - and purchasing firearms and ammunition to make the point that they can pass all the laws they want - I will still keep spending my money as I choose.
If this law gets any serious consideration whatsoever I will have to buy 1000's of rounds of ammo - and a few more "assault weapons" - which will hurt my wallet - and make NH seem even more financially appealing.
Neither am I, but if it ever did, that would be it, I'd be out of the
state before the implementation date hit..... that'd certainly be
the straw that broke the camels back.
-Mike
'disposing' of personal property under threat of gov't penalties is confiscation. I think the Feds might have something to say about the Constitutionality of that.
And that would be a HUGE waste of money, because you would just have to despose of it as soon as this went into effect.![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
Again, how are they going to prove what I have and dont have?
or if i "disposed" of it.
the places i shop at, I usually pay cash and the bill only gives a $$ amount.
The feds haven't helped anyone up here before when the state
steals and destroys people's property when their LTC's expire,
etc. (Well, a lot of PD's do the bonded warehouse thing, but
for all intents and purposes, that might as well be government
sanctioned theft of property. )
-Mike
which is exactly what this POS is looking for
Just a quick glance at the list and it covers all the commonly available
ammunition... even .22LR and 12ga ammo.
How does one even go about stamping anything on a lead 22LR bullet that will be readable after impact? Or bird shot? Just curious?
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
FINALLY someone gets it.
Folks, this law is NOT aimed at crime... it's aimed at US. This evil bastard is trying to legislate US out of owning guns, or out of the state. It's that simple. He KNOWS that this won't do anything for the crime rate - he also knows that without ammo, a gun is just an unwieldy club.
This is pure evil, aimed at making law-abiding gun owners felons or too poor to keep owning guns.
Just another step on the road that Finneran started with Chap 180 and his no-longer-for-life FIDs and Romney continued by raising license fees to $100.
Never. The idea that these kinds of things are about crime
control is just a bold faced lie. The end game of people like the
guy that proposed this legislation is outlawing legal gun ownership
as much as possible. Anyone who was really interested in trying
to stop violent crime would be paying attention to a lot of more
important things as opposed to trying to blame an inanimate object
as the source of the problem. Blaming guns for crime is no different
than blaming a car for drunk drivers!
-Mike
if this shit ever passed it would be the last straw, i would be in NH in a f***in cocaine heart beat. thank god it probley wont pass.... but with the people in this damn state you never know.
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That's kinda what I was getting at. Perhaps the sarcasm didn't show through.
I think we need to have this discussion with our elected officials. That phrase must be missing from their copy of the Bill of Rights.
Exactly, hence the
I'm just saying, this stupid law would make all of us fellons. Because I'm not losing thousands of dollars worth of ammo....
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Exactly, hence the
I'm just saying, this stupid law would make all of us fellons. Because I'm not losing thousands of dollars worth of ammo....
ah, lol, missed the "
" and... in actuallity... arnt they all "stupid law"s?
ah, lol, missed the "
and... in actuallity... arnt they all "stupid law"s?
I hope that I don't have to answer that...
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Originally Posted by EddieCoyle View Post
I read it differently. It looks like he's trying to regulate all ammo in the calibers usable by the firearms on the list. In other words, it wouldn't matter if you were using the .45 ACP in your Thompson or 1911 - it would all have to meet the regulation.
That's the way that I was reading it...
I see it as a means of backing into a pure "AW" ban. If ammo can be used in a regulated firearm, then it will be. Thus, if you own an evil "AW," you can only shoot special ammo through it. If you own an evil "AW," and a hundred other firearms (oops, I mean weapons) that take the same cartridge, then you must only possess the special ammo. But, if you get rid of the evil "AW," then you may lawfully possess regular, non-serial numbered ammo.
I'll bet the authors wish that no such ammo is ever produced.
Also, I wonder if any other state has an "AW" list that looks like this, or has Mass once again reinvented the turning disk device?
Originally Posted by EddieCoyle View Post
I read it differently. It looks like he's trying to regulate all ammo in the calibers usable by the firearms on the list. In other words, it wouldn't matter if you were using the .45 ACP in your Thompson or 1911 - it would all have to meet the regulation.
That's the way that I was reading it...
I see it as a means of backing into a pure "AW" ban. If ammo can be used in a regulated firearm, then it will be. Thus, if you own an evil "AW," you can only shoot special ammo through it. If you own an evil "AW," and a hundred other firearms (oops, I mean weapons) that take the same cartridge, then you must only possess the special ammo. But, if you get rid of the evil "AW," then you may lawfully possess regular, non-serial numbered ammo.
I'll bet the authors wish that no such ammo is ever produced.
Also, I wonder if any other state has an "AW" list that looks like this, or has Mass once again reinvented the turning disk device?
![[shocked]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/007.gif "Shocked [shocked]")
Which, given the list should make my FS2000 worth about a million bucks, just think of how much less I'll have to spend on non-serialed ammo. I might have to bathe in non stamped 223 like Cartman with Kyle's money. (this may be lost on many - its a funny visual). What an absolute failure of common sense. To be expected in the land that elected Deval "9-11 was our fault" Patrick.
jay severan
was listening to jay today, he beat the crap out of Duval.
He now calls him "Governor dumb ass" we all knew that anyway.
Is also calling for his impeachment. I could vote for that.
JimB
was listening to jay today, he beat the crap out of Duval.
He now calls him "Governor dumb ass" we all knew that anyway.
Is also calling for his impeachment. I could vote for that.
JimB
And a company from New Hampshire is leading the way with microstamping.
http://nanomark.com/
http://nanomark.com/
TY43215
NES Member
