Dealing with the gen z.......I swear some days I just want to say f*** it and head to the woods and be a hermit.

[AllaSnackbah]

Nice deflection, son of Boomers! So are your parents as bad as the rest of us? Or are they exceptions? How can they have escaped the Monolith? If they are like most of us they were raised by Silent Generation parents, who endured the Great Depression and were junior service members in WWII. They must have fed you vituperation.

No, I didn’t support “government forcing everybody to get vaccinated”, a couple of you GroupThinkers have poor reading comprehension. But by all means quote the post..

Had COVID before the vaccine existed. Got vaccinated because I couldn’t get cancer treatment without it. So f*** off.

My parents arent complaining about their kids/kids generation on internet forums. No.

 

[Asaltweapon]

My parents arent complaining about their kids/kids generation on internet forums. No.

I’m so glad my wife and I said no to having kids.

 

[jkelly1229]

Your angry at the US government, the Boomers that went to Vietnam didn't create the world we are living in now, the government did.

Boomers played that hand they were dealt just like every generation did, it's always the government not the people.

Just because the Boomers could run a household on a factory job doesn't mean they are responsible for the harsh reality of kids in your generation, or mine for that matter.

I can tell you my great grandfather, my grandfather and my father never rooted for young kids to go off and get killed in some foreign land for bullshit foreign government policies, it's the shitbags that call the shots in the oval office.

The issue is not generational. Its far more complex and it really goes back until about the 1890s.

Anti imperialism and globalism enabled the rise of big government.

Theres a million words that could be written but it really goes back a long time

 

[Dench]

The issue is not generational. Its far more complex and it really goes back until about the 1890s.

Anti imperialism and globalism enabled the rise of big government.

Theres a million words that could be written but it really goes back a long time

It started with the satanic panic and the kidnapper hysteria in the 80s. By the mid 2000s the satanic thing was long gone but the stranger danger thing continued to balloon out of control.

We have majorly setup gen Z to fail, as well as subsequent generations.

 

[sig shooter]

I think this is less of a Gen Z issue and more of someone who can’t admit they f***ed up. Losing shit sucks but it isn’t the end of the world unless it’s the Nuke codes. Admit your mistake if you can’t fix it and move on.

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

The issue is not generational. Its far more complex and it really goes back until about the 1890s.

Anti imperialism and globalism enabled the rise of big government.

Theres a million words that could be written but it really goes back a long time

Agreed it's not generational that's why I roll my eyes at all the gay "Boomer" bullshit that gets spewed out here incessantly by the same core group of faggots over and over again.

Boomers didn't create the mess today, it's failed government policies that go back to at a minimum WW1, the government causes all the problems in this country, always has and always will.

Boomers, Gen x, z, millennials and everyone else since 1776 gets what they get from what the government created

 

[Dench]

Agreed it's not generational that's why I roll my eyes at all the gay "Boomer" bullshit that gets spewed out here incessantly by the same core group of faggots over and over again.

Boomers didn't create the mess today, it's failed government policies that go back to at a minimum WW1, the government causes all the problems in this country, always has and always will.

Boomers, Gen x, z, millennials and everyone else since 1776 gets what they get from what the government created

what we are doing right now as a society is a disservice to kids.

Boomer, Gen X or Millennial. All 3 are associated with todays ultra shit tier child raising.

 

[jkelly1229]

what we are doing right now as a society is a disservice to kids.

Boomer, Gen X or Millennial. All 3 are associated with todays ultra shit tier child raising.

Sure but its the octogenarians pushing this retardedness as well

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

what we are doing right now as a society is a disservice to kids.

Boomer, Gen X or Millennial. All 3 are associated with todays ultra shit tier child raising.

You got kids, I'm pretty sure your probably doing good parenting and you got good kids in return but no matter how well you parent them they are still going to deal with the challenges young Americans face and that is a direct result of the government.

Every generation has had good and bad parenting, electronics, social media, and Internet has done heavy damage but even without that the cost of living is at an insane level and that is a government thing

 

[Dench]

Sure but its the octogenarians pushing this retardedness as well

Sure. But when they all die off nothing is going to improve as a result.

 

[Rockrivr1]

what we are doing right now as a society is a disservice to kids.

Boomer, Gen X or Millennial. All 3 are associated with todays ultra shit tier child raising.

Remember back in the day if I acted up in public I got a very public and loud slap to the rear right in the store. Long gone are those days, but in actuality they should come back. It taught some very good lessons that kids today don't get. Like that young kid video in the grocery store where the mother just lets her kid fling stuff around the store non stop. Probably good I'm not a parent because if that was my kid he'd throw something once and not again after the immediate and public punishment. I don't consider it abuse, just good parenting.

 

[Broc Tuah]

My 3 best employees are 36, 43 and 71.

My worst employee who we finally shit canned was 71. A complete nightmare.

My two worst sales guys are the two with the most experience. Both around 50-55. Both have over 15 years of software sales experience.

One of them, his goal is "to be the highest paid rep". He works as if his goal is to be the lowest paid.

The big positive about them is I can be brutally honest with them. Something I might not be able to do with a 24 year old.

 

[Dench]

My two worst sales guys are the two with the most experience. Both around 50-55. Both have over 15 years of software sales experience.

One of them, his goal is "to be the highest paid rep". He works as if his goal is to be the lowest paid.

The big positive about them is I can be brutally honest with them. Something I might not be able to do with a 24 year old.

I had a lot of trouble communicating with my 20 and under staff at my last job. That said when i was that age i was a complete nightmare to manage so i got what i deserved

 

[Mark from ?]

Remember back in the day if I acted up in public I got a very public and loud slap to the rear right in the store. Long gone are those days, but in actuality they should come back. It taught some very good lessons that kids today don't get. Like that young kid video in the grocery store where the mother just lets her kid fling stuff around the store non stop. Probably good I'm not a parent because if that was my kid he'd throw something once and not again after the immediate and public punishment. I don't consider it abuse, just good parenting.

I grew up in the 70's.....you didn't fxck around. If your father found out you did something stupid....you'd wish he didn't or your ass got warmed with a belt, paddle, hand...whatever. You respected your parents and some or most of that was out of fear. I didn't want that...I wanted to be a little more upfront with my kids on what is expected, and maybe it would be more out of respect than fear.

My kids grew up in the 1990's.. There was still spankings then. I'm not talking child abuse...I'm talking boundaries and if you cross them there are consequences.
We explained more, rather than hit or yelled alot. But again...there was spankings if needed....though generally we talked to our kids on how we EXPECT them to behave and if they crossed the line.....well.....but it didn't happen much at all. I can count on one hand the times I had to do anything like that. Most of it was a threat of it...but if they continued it happened.

The millenial parents I've seen in my family now.....and this is 100% my wife speaking here..... NFW...its all about choices...and letting them make decisions....with no consequences. Let them climb all over shit, cause a ruckus, etc. And the only thing they say are those are bad choices.....and they tell them you could go to the hospital, or fall, or your not being nice, etc.....big fxcking deal. The kid thinks your a fxcking joke. Good luck with that shit when they get older and there is no structure or respect.

 

[MickeyD’s]

The olds are staying way too long on the job market getting bitter and bitter

The youngings have zero idea what to do

I had a lot of trouble communicating with my 20 and under staff at my last job. That said when i was that age i was a complete nightmare to manage so i got what i deserved

each generation Is worse than the last

Been that way since Dawn of time.

 

[Dench]

The olds are staying way too long on the job market getting bitter and bitter

The youngings have zero idea what to do

each generation Is worse than the last

Been that way since Dawn of time.

I do juijitsu with a bunch of youngings. The guy i normally work with is young enough to be my kid. He's originally from RI. Him and his older brother moved down to FL. They own a large shipping company and are millionaires in their 20s... He's a solid dude in terms of personality also.

I use bjj a lot as an example because a lot of high end and or exceptional teens or young adults end up there. So i get to see the best that each generation has to offer every week.

The above mentioned person is about a million times more productive than Ill ever dream of being.

 

[Mark from ?]

My two worst sales guys are the two with the most experience. Both around 50-55. Both have over 15 years of software sales experience.

One of them, his goal is "to be the highest paid rep". He works as if his goal is to be the lowest paid.

The big positive about them is I can be brutally honest with them. Something I might not be able to do with a 24 year old.

Around 55.....depending on circumstances....some guys know they are just on the back 9.....they are probably comfortable and certainly not pushing move up the ladder.

No excuse not to be productive at all...and certainly feet should be held to the fire....and they won't cry about being yelled at. I don't understand this clown saying he wants to be the highest paid rep thing. Sales bullshitters are different than manufacturing people....

Im brutally honest with my boss. I'll do my job, but I'm not trying to be you. I respect you and will work hard for you and our customers....but I don't GAF about climbing the ladder. You want to replace me with a 25 year old that doesn't know anything but wants to move up by kissing your ass and stroking your ego........go the fxck ahead and do it.

Don't expect a 55 yo to behave like a 25 year old trying to climb.......

 

[GeorgeMason]

Can we get this pile moved to off topic?

 

[Mark from ?]

The olds are staying way too long on the job market getting bitter and bitter

The youngings have zero idea what to do

each generation Is worse than the last

Been that way since Dawn of time.

Some older people have had to because of either kids, choices...or the choice to have kids that are fxckheads and they have to support. But I've seen some idiots stay that dont need to....because they can't live without working.

 

[Dench]

Can we get this pile moved to off topic?

Youll be ok.

 

[MickeyD’s]

Some older people have had to because of either kids, choices...or the choice to have kids that are fxckheads and they have to support. But I've seen some idiots stay that dont need to....because they can't live without working.

And they ain’t happy about it

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

I grew up in the 70's.....you didn't fxck around. If your father found out you did something stupid....you'd wish he didn't or your ass got warmed with a belt, paddle, hand...whatever. You respected your parents and some or most of that was out of fear. I didn't want that...I wanted to be a little more upfront with my kids on what is expected, and maybe it would be more out of respect than fear.

My kids grew up in the 1990's.. There was still spankings then. I'm not talking child abuse...I'm talking boundaries and if you cross them there are consequences.
We explained more, rather than hit or yelled alot. But again...there was spankings if needed....though generally we talked to our kids on how we EXPECT them to behave and if they crossed the line.....well.....but it didn't happen much at all. I can count on one hand the times I had to do anything like that. Most of it was a threat of it...but if they continued it happened.

The millenial parents I've seen in my family now.....and this is 100% my wife speaking here..... NFW...its all about choices...and letting them make decisions....with no consequences. Let them climb all over shit, cause a ruckus, etc. And the only thing they say are those are bad choices.....and they tell them you could go to the hospital, or fall, or your not being nice, etc.....big fxcking deal. The kid thinks your a fxcking joke. Good luck with that shit when they get older and there is no structure or respect.

I used to get hit by my father on the regular because I was a literal pain in the balls, the worse was when he would be sitting in his chair and gave me "Get over here now" and I used to have to walk over to him to get smacked lol, "It's going to be worse if I got to get out this chair"

After awhile you get used to the smacks but the worse was when I was ordered to bed at 4 in the afternoon for acting up, can't get out of bed other than the bathroom until the next day that was horrible.

Somewhere down the line it became a domestic if you smack your kid which is kind of crazy.

Common courtesy is hard to come by now so I can see why a lot of kids just don't have respect for anyone especially if their parents don't.

Regarding the younger kids I say it's tougher now than ever, add the massive inflation of everything you throw in the weaponizing of social issues, it makes things all that much more difficult.

Both Kids and parents have it tough

 

[Broc Tuah]

I had a lot of trouble communicating with my 20 and under staff at my last job. That said when i was that age i was a complete nightmare to manage so i got what i deserved

I found the youngest to be the best so far. At least in sales, and the company I work at being hard to get into, the people that join young want to grow and make money.

My youngest guy is 29, he is running circles around everyone. I recently promoted him.

I had 3 interns, they did great and were eager to learn and kick a**.

The older ones are corporate zombies and do the minimum to get by.

But, my world is very different. Someone managing people in a warehouse might have a different experience.

Don't get me wrong, we have our fair share of young kids that are horrible at their jobs. But that is mostly because of sh*t hiring practices and ah*t managers that encouraged them to move on to other teams rather than do the hard, and right, work and get them out of the company.

 

[GeorgeMason]

Youll be ok.

Yes, I'll be fine. This pile still doesn't belong here.

 

[Dench]

I found the youngest to be the best so far. At least in sales, and the company I work at being hard to get into, the people that join young want to grow and make money.

My youngest guy is 29, he is running circles around everyone. I recently promoted him.

I had 3 interns, they did great and were eager to learn and kick a**.

The older ones are corporate zombies and do the minimum to get by.

But, my world is very different. Someone managing people in a warehouse might have a different experience.

Don't get me wrong, we have our fair share of young kids that are horrible at their jobs. But that is mostly because of sh*t hiring practices and ah*t managers that encouraged them to move on to other teams rather than do the hard, and right, work and get them out of the company.

What line of work

 

[Broc Tuah]

What line of work

Tech. Software sales.

 

[Broc Tuah]

Yes, I'll be fine. This pile still doesn't belong here.

Could be worse, could have been a thread started by a dealer in the non-dealer classifieds.

 

[Dench]

Tech. Software sales.

If I had any human interaction skills that would be good for me

 

[Individualist]

Great thread!

Do we have a winner yet?

 

[In God We Trust]

Lol I don't know what OT even is haven't had an hourly job in 30 years.....the military ain't hourly and I've been in management ever since. I have called hourly guys at home......sometimes we need a last minute load delivered or trailers moved on the weekend. I've had guys answer and tell me I'd come in but.....I'm 3 beers into this football game lol. I'd never hold that against them the weekend is theirs.

Unfortunately for me, they would mandate you like 2 days in advance so the drunk thing don’t work.

There would be a schedule posted of all the available OT shifts and I would sign my name on the ones I could take. I worked nights and my ex worked days. If they tried to mandate me for a day shift on the weekend, what am I supposed to do with my kids? The answer was “tough shit. Figure it out or find someone else to work the shift.”

My reply was basically “I’m not going to be in that day, it’s not my job to find coverage, work it yourself. Don’t call me about this again.”