Emergency Preamble to be signed Weds?

[Mesatchornug]

Billerica is turning around first time applicants in less than three weeks. "it's the state" is such an easily disprovable lie.

always has been. the problem is that everyone is scared of rocking the boat.

Whereas I'm lazy and in peak senioritis. I poke him enough to show I know what's going on, and make sure I have my MIRCS receipt so I can still buy when needed.

 

[FisherTech]

Who knows - I don't put it past them.
Recording ammo sales gives zero information necessary to solve crimes.
The only thing it could be used for is to detect unregistered firearms with a person buying ammo for a caliber the state doesn't know they own.

That Shit Hole had that rule once before and did away with it, as it was a waste of time and Money and solved NOTHING!!!

 

[Yazz]

Who knows - I don't put it past them.
Recording ammo sales gives zero information necessary to solve crimes.
The only thing it could be used for is to detect unregistered firearms with a person buying ammo for a caliber the state doesn't know they own.

I often buy ammo for calibers I don't own to shoot other peoples firearms.

 

[zork51]

It's not illegal to be illegal. ( in Massachusetts. Marth Coakley)



Feels good to be gangsta.

 

[pastera]

I often buy ammo for calibers I don't own to shoot other peoples firearms.

Just because you have a clear and valid reason doesn't stop the state from interpreting it as probable cause to investigate what you possess in your home.

 

[Chappy7]

Just because you have a clear and valid reason doesn't stop the state from interpreting it as probable cause to investigate what you possess in your home.

Sadly the state needs to do their real job!

 

[matt2491]

No, because they aren't legal to possess in your home state.

What if said killy stuff were in MA on 8/1? In other words, left over MA dealer stock. I don't see why an NH dealer can't sell those items back into MA.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Too sad evening news did not say a word about it all, to all those felons in waiting.
Most people simply know nothing about it all.

And I sent copies of that specific part of the law to two news stations again yesterday asking them to specifically let those 22k plus people know they they would be committing felonies today and one station just did another puff piece talking to another gun shop proprietor.

They are nothing but state propagandists at this point as they have been for many many years.

 

[chris_1001]

Happy (un)Pin Day! 10/3/2024

 

[drgrant]

Happy Pin Day! 10/3/2024

View attachment 923489

It's missing a segment of coat hanger.

 

[freddieMA]

Just because you have a clear and valid reason doesn't stop the state from interpreting it as probable cause to investigate what you possess in your home.

let's see if we regress far enough for a judge to sign that warrant

 

[HorizontalHunter]

It's missing a segment of coat hanger.

Quiet peasant Maura will ban metal coat hangers now and it will be constructive possession for gun owners who have metal hangers.

 

[chris_1001]

It's missing a segment of coat hanger.

Don't get your coat hangers in a twist... lol

As I said earlier, we need to gather up all the removed Stock and Muzzle device pins and send them en mass to Mura...

 

[pastera]

What if said killy stuff were in MA on 8/1? In other words, left over MA dealer stock. I don't see why an NH dealer can't sell those items back into MA.

The way the state is interpretation the copies and duplicates stuff is how I did in the first place and got torn apart for.
If a copy or duplicate wasn't listed in the transaction database on 7/20/16 then it is illegal regardless of it's presence on 8/1.

The odd part of this is that all copies and duplicates that were in dealer inventory on 8/1 were unquestionably legally possessed therefore all of those are 100% exempt.

 

[Marty McFly]

Quiet peasant Maura will ban metal coat hangers now and it will be constructive possession for gun owners who have metal hangers.

Never. She's pro abortion

 

[pastera]

let's see if we regress far enough for a judge to sign that warrant

We've been there for years

 

[Rockrivr1]

So I’ve been thinking about the following as I read through the replies.

#1 rule of non-compliance is:
STFU!!!

#2 rule of non-compliance is:
Don’t post your not going to comply on a public forum and oh yeah, see rule #1!

Maybe it’s just me.

 

[AJK129]

So I’ve been thinking about the following as I read through the replies.

#1 rule of non-compliance is:
STFU!!!

#2 rule of non-compliance is:
Don’t post your not going to comply on a public forum and oh yeah, see rule #1!

Maybe it’s just me.

Of course we're all complying. Most of us dont even own guns

 

[PappyM3]

The way the state is interpretation the copies and duplicates stuff is how I did in the first place and got torn apart for.
If a copy or duplicate wasn't listed in the transaction database on 7/20/16 then it is illegal regardless of it's presence on 8/1.

The odd part of this is that all copies and duplicates that were in dealer inventory on 8/1 were unquestionably legally possessed therefore all of those are 100% exempt.

All lowers in personal possession on 8/1 were also unquestionably legal. There is zero ambiguity in prior MGL text that a lower by itself is not a firearm, rifle, or shotgun. That’s one part of her press release that was clearly contrary to codified MGL text. Other parts violated nearly two decades of precedent, but the “receivers are AWs too” was blatantly against the text of MGL.

 

[PappyM3]

Of course we're all complying. Most of us dont even own guns

I’m here for the banter and enjoy posting photos of my NH friends’ guns.

 

[pastera]

All lowers in personal possession on 8/1 were also unquestionably legal. There is zero ambiguity in prior MGL text that a lower by itself is not a firearm, rifle, or shotgun. That’s one part of her press release that was clearly contrary to codified MGL text. Other parts violated nearly two decades of precedent, but the “receivers are AWs too” was blatantly against the text of MGL.

How many people purchased a post 7/20/16 AR rifle and possessed it on 8/1?
While I agree that the text of the law, both prior and current, supports legal status that is not what the state is presuming.

 

[AJK129]

I’m here for the banter and enjoy posting photos of my NH friends’ guns.

Im here because I got lost trying to find a motorcycle forum

 

[Chappy7]

So I’ve been thinking about the following as I read through the replies.

#1 rule of non-compliance is:
STFU!!!

#2 rule of non-compliance is:
Don’t post your not going to comply on a public forum and oh yeah, see rule #1!

Maybe it’s just me.

Rule #3 - Never forget rules 1 & 2.

 

[dcmdon]

Town dependent, as you probably know by now. There is no backup anymore. I know, mine took 6 weeks, my wife applied later, but got hers at the same time, or about 3-4 weeks. So there was a spike around 8/1, but now it's clear. I read about people getting their first LTC in as little as 3 weeks in the past month on reddit.

If it's a renewal, just keep carrying. Provided you submitted your renewal before the expiration of the old one the law says you can continue to carry on the expired license. Zero risk. Though you can't buy anything in state. Which is a pain in the butt.

If you are a new applicant and you call the state and it's been issued, then just start carrying. You have a LTC. Your 5hith0le town just hasn't sent it to you yet.

My town has been very good. Generally they return stuff within a month. They used to schedule interviews within a week, so no hassles there. Since Covid they are a 100% email based process and will send you a message confirming they received everything. (You drop the paper off at the front desk)

When I lost my LTC, they replaced it in a timely manner, no charge.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

I'm panicking, I'm panicking.

 

[matt2491]

How many people purchased a post 7/20/16 AR rifle and possessed it on 8/1?
While I agree that the text of the law, both prior and current, supports legal status that is not what the state is presuming.

What's the point of having law if the state is just going to presume something else?

I think I'll choose to just follow the text and not presumptions. Just like I'm not planning to follow the EOPS new guidance suggesting dealers can still sell long guns, which is directly in conflict with the actual new law.

 

[dixidawg]

Doing the important work of the state.

Healey pauses plan to release beaver into the wild: ‘We're going to protect Nibi'​

MassWildlife had originally said it planned to release the 2-year-old beaver on Tuesday morning​

By Marc Fortier and Jericho Tran • Published October 1, 2024 • Updated on October 1, 2024 at 5:44 pm​

Tuesday was meant to be deadline day for Nibi, as the Massachusetts Division of Fisheries and Wildlife told the wildlife rescue organization that has been caring for the 2-year-old beaver that it would be released into the wild.

However, the state said Tuesday morning that they would not be coming for Nibi at 9:30 a.m. as originally scheduled. Exactly what that means for her long-term future was not immediately clear.

Jane Newhouse, who rescued the one-pound newborn beaver on the side of the road in Sturbridge back in 2022, said in an update on Facebook that MassWildlife had informed her in an email that they will not be taking Nibi on Tuesday. She added that an emergency injunction has been filed against the state, and she is scheduled to appear in Lowell Superior Court on Friday.

Gov. Maura Healey pledged to "protect Nibi" during a media availability Tuesday, saying she halted MassWildlife's plan to release the animal into the wild.

Read the rest:

Healey pauses plan to release beaver into the wild: ‘We're going to protect Nibi'

She did this because she really really really likes beavers…..

 

[mav]

Im convinced Jeepers buy bags of ducks from Amazon and put them in their windshield.

Nah, I can't park anywhere near another Jeep without getting ducked. I tried to recycle the ducks I got by ducking others, but I couldn't keep up.

My wife thought it was funny, so she bought a bag of ducks from Amazon to duck other Jeeps. It keeps her entertained so now I don't say shit about it.

 

[Broc Tuah]

While this is true good luck deprogramming people on this. At a bare minimum you would probably have to waste more time explaining how the FA10 language was deleted than it would take to just fill out the FA10. Actually if somebody is playing by old rules the buyer shouldn't even give a shit but the seller is the one you would have to convince because they were the one obligated to file. It's only a matter of time before the state goes full faggot and tells everybody they need to keep using the stupid EFA 10 system anyways even if the law actually deletes it.

I understand. My point was: people can't say they are "not complying" when there isn't a compliance requirement.

 

[mav]

Ok, so way too much to read in this thread. Looks like the Governor signed whatever and the law is now in effect today.

TLDR:
Is everything that is currently in possession legal? Evil killy AWB features are no longer a "thing" so we can stop with the pinned adjustable stocks and no flash supressors? We're supposed to register everything we currently own, but the registration portal doesn't currently exist?

I don't know how to feel about not having to worry about the AWB bullshit in MA while at the same time knowing the 2nd Amendment and gun rights have been shit on for everyone after 10/2/2024 in this state... it's like someone made me a peanut butter and banana sandwich and used a rotten banana. I so want to take a bite, but damn that banana tastes like ass.