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Don't count on it. Even in NYSRPA goes well, the PD could very well take the position "make us", which means money and time. Fortunately, this would be the kind of case Comm2a lives for - and it's existence can give pause to an issuing authority who thinks "this person will go away, they can't afford the legal fees".
I'm totally up for this if it happens, even though it may not personally benefit me since litigation takes so much time and it will be roughly a six month gap between NYSRPA opinion and my AIDS permit expiring. But if I'm not the one, there is someone out there who could be stuck with an AIDS permit for years.
I am in Uxbridge and found the issuing officer excellent, accommodating, professional and Constitutional. Pretty much said unless I have a thick file on you for violence it's a go.
| 8/21/21 Took LTC-020 Class, refresher - not required . With both my sons -required |
| 10/27/21 Renewal Sent USPS |
| 10/28/21 USPS indicates Package delivered to Dedham PD |
| 10/28/21 Received voice mail from licensing officer, requesting additional proof of residency, he suggested printing voter registration. |
| 10/28/21 Printed online voter registration and excise tax bill and dropped off at Dedham PD on way home from work. |
| 12/15/21 Recieved Reciept via USPS for entry into MIRCS system |
| 1/10/22 Called Mass FRB for status check, FRB indicated Chief approved unrestricted LTC, LTC waiting to be printed. |
| 1/14/2022 Called Mass FRB for status check, FRB indicated LTC printed, Pending delivery to DPD |
| 1/17/22 Called DPD as LTC payment has not yet cleared bank, Officer said the Chief's Secretary holds them and batch deposits them, also stated |
| FRB Printed LTC and Pending delivery to DPD and I should expect it within 1-2 weeks. |
| 2/3/22 LTC A No Restirctions Received via USPS |
| 8/14/21 Application Mailed to State Police Concord, NH | |||
| 8/16/21 Application Delivered to State Police, Concord, NH | |||
| 9/7/21 License Delivered via USPS Maine Non-Res Prev Expired – too long to Renew – New application
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| 9/17/21 Took UTAH Class l - Photographed and fingerprinted |
| 9/19/21 Mailed Application Package to UTAH BCI at Newton 24 hour Kiosk |
| 9/21/21 Application package Delivered to Utah BCI |
| 9/28/21 SMS - UTAH BCI Charged Credit Card, Mastercard xxxx, Chargge posted 9/29/21 |
| 11/1/21 Utah License Arrived via USPS |
| 2/13/2022 Application Completed - Application Tracking number Txxxxxxxxx |
| 2/13/2022 Fingerprinted at PD PO xxxxxxxxx |
| 2/14/2022 Application and Documents Mailed USPS FromNewton Center. Tracking 95xxxx |
| 2/19/2022 Package arrived late to USPS facility Tallahsssie from Jacksonville. |
| 2/21/2022 Package Still Late, Arrived at Destination Facility |
| 2/21/2022 Package Delivered |
| 2/22/2022 Check xxx - 97.00 Deposited |
| 2/24/2022 Application tracking number now shows application in process - most applications processed in 50-55 days |
| 3/11/2022 Tracking shows License approved, waiting for printing and delivery, allow 15 business days for printing and delivery |
| 3/20/2022 License Delivered by USPS First Class Mail, No Tracking |
| 2/13/2022 | Application Completed |
| Application and Documents Sent USPS Tracking xxxx | |
2/16/2022 | Application and Documents Delivered Middletown, CT |
3/8/2022 | Received letter and payment checks back. Called Special Licensing, Was told that 1 of the 3 payments in not required anymore and payment 2 had to be done online. |
5/23/2022 | Called Special Licensing, was told that my application was being started again, prev issue with payment caused incomplete application status |
5/24/2022 | Pistol Permit Issued |
5/31/2022 | Permit arrived USPS first class mail |
| 3/11/22 Application Completed, Check xxx for 40.00 |
| 3/13/22 Application Mailed |
| 3/15/22 Application Delivered at 10:46am |
| 3/17/22 Called for Approx wait time, 7-14 weeks |
| 4/15/22 Check xxx Cleared bank. 40.00 |
| 6/8/2022 Received Call, License approved, Appointment 6/9/22 - Photo and fingerprinting, leave with permit in hand |
| 10/15/21 Application Completed |
| 10/21/21 All required docs emailed xxxxxxx Appointment set for 12/28/21 for Fingerprinting and MIRCS Entry - Appointment Delay Could have had next day but kids-school |
| 12/28/21 Fingerprinted, Photo from RMV, entry into MIRCS system Written multiple choice exam, 1 wrong |
| 1/14/22 Called Mass FRB for status check, FRB indicated Chief approved FID, FID waiting to be printed. |
| 2/3/22 FID Received via USPS, Post marked 1/31/22 |
| 3/19/2022 PASSPORT PHOTOS TAKEN, CVS WOBURN, APPLICATION COMPLETED |
| 3/20/2022 APPLICATION PACKAGE SENT 24HR KIOSK, Tracking 420043xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx90680 |
| 3/22/2022 APPLICATION PACKAGE SHOWING DELIVERED AT 9:04AM |
| 3/28/2022 CHECK xxx $60.00 DATED 3/4/22 CLEARED |
| 3/30/2022 LICENSE ISSUED |
| 4/2/2022 LICENSE RECEIVED VIA USPS |
| 3/19/2022 APPLICATION COMPLETED |
| 3/20/2022 APPLICATION PACKAGE SENT USPS, NEWTON CENTRE 24HR KIOSK, Tracking xxxxxxxxxxx |
| 3/22/2022 APPLICATION PACKAGE SHOWING DELIVERED BY USPS AT 6:39AM |
| 4/14/2022 PAYMENT HAS NOT CLEARED BANK, LICENSE HAS NOT BEEN DELIVERED. CALLED NHSP, LEFT VOICEMAIL |
| 4/18/2022 CALLED NHSP, LEFT ANOTHER MESSAGE |
| 4/25/2022 PAYMENT CLEARED BANK, CHECK xxx 100.00 |
| 4/28/2022 LICENSE DELIVERED BY USPS |
| 10/15/2021 Completed Application |
| 10/21/21 All required docs emailed, Appoint set for 12/28/21 for Photo, Fingerprinting and MIRCS Entry- delay due to being in school |
| 12/28/21 Fingerprinted, Photo taken (No RMV photo), entry into MIRCS system Written multiple choice exam - 100% “Nobody has ever got them all right” “My dad is a good teacher” |
| 1/14/22 Called Mass FRB for status check, FRB indicated Chief approved FID, FID waiting to be printed. |
| 1/24/2022 Called Mass FRB, FID has been printed and pending delivery to Woburn PD |
| 2/3/22 FID Received via USPS, Post marked 1/29/22 |
| FID Received before 15th Birthday, FID not active until 15th Birthday - issue date 3 weeks after delivery |
| Changed Status to Active on MIRCS at 12:00am on xx/xx/22 |
Watertown 1st time LTC app here...Took Safety course 6-12-22 and left voicemail to LO same day and just got a callback today for an appointment on 6/23/22 so pretty good turn around. Longtime chief just retired earlier this month so we have a new chief who knows what can happen. Nervous tho reading the comments about Watertown being historically red on 1st time ALP applications. The LO I spoke to sounded nice tho so maybe that's something? Letter to chief required, and 2 character letters of reference. Fingers crossed will keep you guys postedThis is a replacement for THIS thread which is ancient and somewhat outdated
Guide to gun rights in your Massachusetts town
Here is a town list, type your town and the color and someone will make the edit. Although we will do our best to keep this list accurate and updated as always your local issuing officer has the last say. This list is compiled from the experiences of NES members. Remember we don't know...www.northeastshooters.com
Things have changed, in 2021 there are very few full on red towns anymore.
What we need here is feedback, and I will update the posts here with an index.
Some constraints: Only new app experiences are really useful. Renewals almost don't count, HOWEVER, I'll make an exception.... if some town gives you shit renewing, makes it hard to obtain a receipt, or some other possibly obstructionist BS, it should be noted.
Towns should be rated Bright Green / Green / Yellow / Red
Bright Green is only awarded if they don't have unnecessary requirements on 1st issue. (eg, most towns will not get bright green, because they require reference letters, which is NOT in the law!) you get the
idea.
Frequently asked Question of all time: "Will Town X downgrade me on renewal or on the fly if I move in with an unrestricted LTC?"
Most towns, even the Shitty Mc Shit towns, DO NOT do this. That said, BE CAREFUL. Septic Tank Shit towns like Brookline? I would be shocked if they didn
downgrade you.... but others like Cambridge, or Medford do not downgrade move ins. Even notorious shit towns like Watertown supposedly stopped doing this.
I think most of them stopped doing this shit because it sets them up to get sued and be in a bad position. It's much easier for them to abuse new people with no license time under
their belts.
There should be 3 categories of rating:
General (eg, restrictive vs not, restricted vs unrestricted etc then
Administrative (how hard it is to get an appointment etc) and also
Suitability. Suitability is difficult because most people don't have problems. But if some c*** town says "bweah you ahve a DUI from 900 years ago that shouldnt count, but we still hate you" we want to know because we want to put them on the list and mark it as such.
This is the phirst poast, the 2nd one will be the actual town list with ratings. Phirst post will also be used for link to Comm2A scoreboards/cards etc. When I can get my hands on such info/links....
ETA: Thanks to @Mesatchornug I have attached the 2017 Comm2a Scorecard to this post, if someone has a newer one, I will add/update it.
ETA2: Also added state license total # link, etc... here... also see attachments for backup
Currently in the application process for WATERTOWN. Got an appointment for 6/23/22 w/ the LO. The scorecard doesn't look good tho almost 90% restricted LTC's on first timers according to that spreadsheet. Still requiring letter to chief and 2 letters of reference. Will update when I get my response back
Not knowing what you mean by "can happen" I would keep that to myself during the interview.
I think we’ve historically seen the trend be towns moving away from restrictions as the old guard retires. With that said, with it being so recent, unless the new CLEO feels very strongly either way, I’d expect status quo for now.
Top 10? You're too kind. From everything I've read, I'd think top 5, if not 3.
I figured Brookline and Boston had to be tied for number 1 when they were downgrading and required Moon Island tests. My understanding was that Watertown and Brookline are the only towns that still downgrade.
Letter to the chief. Send him the bill of rights and then apply without any of the horse shit. When you get ignored or denied sue the tyrant.
Let me explain how it works in MA.Letter to the chief. Send him the bill of rights and then apply without any of the horse shit. When you get ignored or denied sue the tyrant.
I am talking about mAss law. there is no law(s) requiring letter(s).
Mass law leaves grants up to police chiefs.
I mean't that based on searching this forum and previous posts I see that Watertown has historically been a RED town whether in denials or issuing restricted ltc's which are basically useless. I mean't if the new chief is open to honoring 2nd amendment rights it could be favorable for me. who knows, i still find it baffling i even have to submit all these docs.
It’s going to be restricted if you’re a regular guy. I did my renewal in April and got my unrestricted renewal 5 weeks later. It was my second renewal
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