Tallahassee
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He knows, that's why he isn't commenting. Maybe he's from Maine too.
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Manual safety or not? 365X
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If I felt I was going to get in a struggle, I'd have my weapon drawn, racked and loaded before anyone got that close. Training is not what need. I'm in Maine now not Mass.![[mg]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/036.gif "Machine Gun [mg]")
If you didnt think internally that this philosophy wasnt at least 20% retarded tho you wouldnt have posted this thread and you'd keep doing what you were doing. But internally, a part of you recognized that it is retarded, and that is progress.
Just get a kydex holster thats built well (not a shitty mc douche leather backed hybrid like shitbreed or alienf*** f*** those things) and you wont have to worry about safety issues.
chris_1001
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Can I watch?There are still lawsuits going on over that one, although I generally agree in most cases its overblown... if I still had a P320 and was going to carry it, id be whacking the piss out of it with a deadblow hammer at the range trying to make it go off before I trusted it.![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
Tallahassee
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Grendizer138
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The problem with this line of thinking is that you don't get to choose the time and the place - the bad guy does.If I felt I was going to get in a struggle, I'd have my weapon drawn, racked and loaded before anyone got that close. Training is not what need. I'm in Maine now not Mass.
You are most likely going to be in an initiative deficit, trying to catch up on the decision making process, and the bad guy has already decided to attack you.
Having to chamber a round should not be one of these decisions.
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Yep.
If a person starts off with good leather, keeps it maintained, and replaces it before it gets to this point they should be ok:
Maybe no training required (the way life should be), but competent training will make you more skillful that you could do on your own.
Not to mention that more and more attacks these days are committed by multiple cockroaches and they're just randomly targeting people and surrounding them before they even know what’s going on.
Carrying a self defense pistol on an empty chamber is setting yourself up for failure.
Agreed.
When the leather sweat guard used on those holsters starts to soften, it begins to fall over.
The ignorant will poke at the leather to move it out of the way to reholster.
Guess what they poke at it with?
chris_1001
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Understood, but nah, no worries....
Yup... thats one of the reasons I hate hybrids.
The bigger one is that theres a bunch of bizarre scenarios that can happen with the flexing of the holster because of the dissimilar materials involved that can result in the whole thing flexing in ways that I dont like, potentially introducing safety issues. If someone wants leather they should use a leather holster. If not, use full kydex.
Agnotology
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I feel bad for your chamber. It's had a butt plug in for 2 years and it's never been out.
As far as the holster discussion - I actually keep my gun inside my leather holster and remove gun and holster in one go.
Boghog1
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Did that, I'm not concerned and I carried appendix
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I prefer a thumb safety, just as an additional layer of protection. It is true that your brain and finger are the most important safety, but it's nice to have a backup in case you make a mistake. I started carrying a 1911 commander with thumb safety, so when I got an M&P 2.0, I ordered it with the thumb safety.
And they aren’t made by Galco …
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What the actual f**k? I went through 3 full pages of comments and not a single "Hello Maura" was posted??? I am disappointed with you guys... Come on now... You don't think she wouldn't like to post behind a name "BigAl23"?
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Asaltweapon
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How would he know?
I have never carried a firearm with a safety. 21 years, never had an incident.
Don't finger f your gun all the time. Load it, put it in the holster. Put it in the holster FIRST, then put the holster on your belt. That will take away 99% of any chance of an incident.
While training, take your damn time reholstering. Speed is on the draw, not the holstering.
The only gun I own that I'd consider carrying that has a safety are my 1911's. Don't be concerned about a non-issue. Even if you have one of those self aware Sigs that shoots on it's own, that is when you drop them, don't drop it.
Most people have never trained to the level of stress that's involved with actually drawing a firearm. More than once in my career, the event started, I looked down and my pistol was in my hand, no recollection of drawing it. That's the level of stress you encounter. Some guns, like 1911's, have a very natural safety deactivation, most don't. Are you going to manipulate the safety under that level of stress?
Asaltweapon
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I have 2 friends who were really good cops before retirement that were involved in being drawn on.
They both said it happens so fast it’s scary.
They both said it happens so fast it’s scary.
Agreed. I see so many people speed reholstering.
Sadly, no. Apparently a number of P320s have fired while in the holster, not just by being dropped.
