Massachusetts Bill HD.4420 "An act to modernize gun Laws"

[Harry Christopher]

admittedly being lazy on search here...anyone know where to get a yard sign against this nonsense in greater springfield area. saw goal has them at HQ just hard to get there while open during the week. thanks

If one lives in a part of the Republic widely noted for being a hotbed of left-wing progressive retardation........ do you think this yard sign would be considered inappropriate by the self-appointed arbiters of what constitutes current political correctness?

Asking for a friend......

 

[413guy]

put them on your liberal neighbors yards?

If one lives in a part of the Republic widely noted for being a hotbed of left-wing progressive retardation........ do you think this yard sign would be considered inappropriate by the self-appointed arbiters of what constitutes current political correctness?

Asking for a friend......

 

[friscoeast]

Put a sign up yesterday

 

[flippinfleck]

Hamilton's sign since the beginning of August.

 

[Harry Christopher]

put them on your liberal neighbors yards?

We live near the Western Capital of The People's Democratic Socialist Republic. Many years ago, while driving thru the capital on our way to do errands in another town, we came across a scene that at first, we found baffling. The town common in the center of the town was filled with residents using wooden cooking spoons to bang on pots and pans of various shapes and sizes.

Being admittedly rather sadly deficient in our knowledge of the more exotic rituals of unbridled tribal liberalism, we had no idea what we were witnessing. Subsequent inquires explained that this was, in point of fact, a demonstration against whatever was the perceived political injustice of the day and was a show of solidarity for its supposed victims of that injustice.

Even after this much needed educational enlightenment, we still thought that what we had seen in the wild was essentially...... nothing less..... than the blatant, premeditated, unrestrained, physical abuse of good cookware....... and we were...... frankly..... appalled that the relevant local authorities allowed this public abuse....in front of the children no less.... to continue unabated without any visible signs of pending intervention.

I am afraid that the afore referenced lawn sign would be too subtle in its nature as a medium to effectively convey our message to these same individuals who apparently believe that a wooden cooking spoon and a pot are all the weapons required for their never-ending struggle against the ravishments of Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Boy........are they in for a painful and rude awakening in the not too distance future.......

 

[413guy]

Good showing over route 90 in Sturbridge by Hamilton so far. Id say 35-40 at peak. Nice meeting a few of you.

 

[flippinfleck]

Hamilton Rod and Gun from the Pike, West and East.

 

[Mellero47]

Nice of you to pull the U turn and get both sides. Here's a first person view. Had a fine time, afterwards I went to Hamilton and exercised my 2A while I still could.

 

[flippinfleck]

Nice of you to pull the U turn and get both sides. Here's a first person view. Had a fine time, afterwards I went to Hamilton and exercised my 2A while I still could.

I wasn't the one driving.

 

[flippinfleck]

Nice of you to pull the U turn and get both sides. Here's a first person view. Had a fine time, afterwards I went to Hamilton and exercised my 2A while I still could.

Nice first post by the way.

Pretty sure there wasn't a person on the bridge yesterday that hasn't met my wife and I at some point, even though there were some new faces out there.

Thanks for taking the time to stand with us.

 

[Mellero47]

Nice first post by the way.

Pretty sure there wasn't a person on the bridge yesterday that hasn't met my wife and I at some point, even though there were some new faces out there.

Thanks for taking the time to stand with us.

If you are who I think you are, we shook hands when the "90 westbound" group broke up, tho I'm afraid I forgot your name already. With luck we'll meet again on the range, it's always just me up there.

 

[murf4321]

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This is what I imagine it would be like if I was a cat writing about licking my own vagina. Really not sure why, maybe I’m low IQ, but that was my first thought.

 

[Harry Christopher]

This is what I imagine it would be like if I was a cat writing about licking my own vagina. Really not sure why, maybe I’m low IQ, but that was my first thought.

In view of Ms. Gregoire being a self-anointed font of all the collected wisdom known to man....one suspects that she would be a marvelous dinner companion......think of all the sparkling conversation that you may be missing.....

The World View from The Boston Beautiful People:

 

[flippinfleck]

If you are who I think you are, we shook hands when the "90 westbound" group broke up, tho I'm afraid I forgot your name already. With luck we'll meet again on the range, it's always just me up there.

My name is forgettable which is OK by me. I don't need it repeated here or elsewhere.

But yes, I am who you think I am. I'm sure our paths will cross again.

 

[Harry Christopher]

admittedly being lazy on search here...anyone know where to get a yard sign against this nonsense in greater springfield area. saw goal has them at HQ just hard to get there while open during the week. thanks

Here is another store that says they have the signs.....they are located on Rt.9 in Belchertown.

 

[pastera]

32 mile ride through taunton, Dighton, Swansea, and Rehoboth
At least half a dozen HD4420 signs out.

 

[Harry Christopher]

32 mile ride through taunton, Dighton, Swansea, and Rehoboth
At least half a dozen HD4420 signs out.

While driving on a back road in Ware this morning to pick up a truck load of hay we saw 2 of the 4420 signs. In view of the public support for the fight against 4420 by the Chief of Police of Ware I would not be surprised to see even more of the signs in other areas of the town.

We have not seen so much public anger and a determination to fight for our 2-A Constitutional civil rights in the past as we have seen and read about in this present struggle........and that is encouraging to us.......

 

[flippinfleck]

While driving on a back road in Ware this morning to pick up a truck load of hay we saw 2 of the 4420 signs. In view of the public support for the fight against 4420 by the Chief of Police of Ware I would not be surprised to see even more of the signs in other areas of the town.

We have not seen so much public anger and a determination to fight for our 2-A Constitutional civil rights in the past as we have seen and read about in this present struggle........and that is encouraging to us.......

Two yard signs in Ware have you fired up?

I personally planted two in Sturbridge, two in Southbridge, and three in Charlton.

Boo!

 

[Toast]

So are there going to be paste-over sheets for the fall when the bill is reintroduced with a new number?

 

[bigred460]

So are there going to be paste-over sheets for the fall when the bill is reintroduced with a new number?

The crazy thing is that this piece of sh!t legislation never got an actual bill number, HD4420 is a docket number.

 

[rogersmithiii]

Ah, the shut up, I'm smarter than you argument. I know what's best for you.

There are a lot of stupid lawyers in the world. The fact that most politicians went to law school shows that...

While driving on a back road in Ware this morning to pick up a truck load of hay we saw 2 of the 4420 signs. In view of the public support for the fight against 4420 by the Chief of Police of Ware I would not be surprised to see even more of the signs in other areas of the town.

We have not seen so much public anger and a determination to fight for our 2-A Constitutional civil rights in the past as we have seen and read about in this present struggle........and that is encouraging to us.......

Please let us know all the places where we can get signs. I'd be happy to put one up.

 

[rogersmithiii]

A few more thoughts to share with Representative Roy......

If you want to REALLY ......TRULY.......CAUSE MR. ROY'S EYES TO GLAZE OVER.....you might calmly and quietly inquire if during the course of his due diligence pursuant to the issue of MORE infringement on our Constitutional civil rights, has he become aware of the findings of the following report published by that noted "right wing pro-gun" organization known as:

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https://www.mass.gov/doc/2020-death-report/download

If you go to page 179 of this forum thread and message #5352 you will discover my amateur analysis of the Republic's own data that leads a reasonable person to conclude that the leading cause of death for young people was suicide and NOT LAW-FUL GUN OWNERS.

An excerpt from that post:

Yes......it is true that people do in fact die in the Republic over a range of all age groups on a daily basis.

Out of the listed cause of death suicide is one that could greatly benefit from some serious study and financial investment especially in the very vulnerable age range of 15-24 for children and 25-44 for adults.

Despite my best efforts to do so I was unable to discover any potential facets of the 4420 proposal that actually address the real causes of children's death and try to do something constructive about those causes.

If you print out the various charts and graphs from that official Republic report and hand them to him don't be surprised if he is suddenly overcome by a severe clinical case of the vapors.

The following was my last of many emails written to both my senator and representative. Since sending them I have not heard back from either one.........I am shocked, shocked as Captain Renault said when he was in Rick's Cafe.

Dear Senator/Representative,

This news article reports on the opinions of both some police chiefs and elected official’s point of view pursuant to the proposed H.D. 4420 legislation. You will note that they are pointing out the same thing that we have said in our prior emails to you in opposition to the legislation as it is presently written.

The issue of crime in the Commonwealth is not one predicated upon the behavior of citizens who lawfully own firearms……IT IS NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN DRIVEN SOLELY BY THE NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW BY CRIMINALS.

Disarming and criminalizing law-abiding citizens will not in any way, shape or form have any reductive impact on the crime rate in the Commonwealth, what it will do is increase the overall rate of victimization of decent people just trying to provide security and safety for their families and themselves to the best of their collective abilities.

When the time arrives for you to consider the proposed legislation we respectfully request that you afford serious consideration to the demonstrative negative impacts legislation such as this present example will impose upon the citizens of the Commonwealth in general and upon your constituents in particular.

Classifying by blind edict law-abiding people as criminals will not now nor in the future have any constructive impact on the crime situation…..it never has and it never will.

Thank you for your time.


If you find any of my musings to be of passing assistance to you during your own part in this struggle against the forces of dark and insipid institutional ignorance, feel free to employ them as you will.

And don't forget:

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They know it's all BS. It doesn't matter. The BS just needs to be slightly believable to allow them justification to pass this gun control. They know the average schlub won't do any homework, so they can lie and get away with it.

The facts are irrelevant. It's how many votes the pols can get during the next re-election cycle, and what the majority wants to hear in exchange for those votes.

 

[Matt_SERE]

Please let us know all the places where we can get signs. I'd be happy to put one up.

Courtesy of @GOAL and posted by @Chappy7

HD.4420 Sign Pick Up Spots:​

If you want to host a pickup spot contact KerrieAnn@goal.org

Northeast:

• Patriot Arms - Route 1 Ipswich, MA
• Precision Point Firearms - Woburn, MA
• Ma**h*** Firearms - Littleton, MA
• Lowell Sportsmen's Club - Chelmsford, MA
• Nicholas - Stoneham, MA
• Four Seasons Firearms - Woburn, MA

Southeast:

• On Target Training - East Bridgewater, MA
• Brophy's Fine Firearms - Middleborough, MA
• Outer Limits Pro Shop - Holbrook, MA
• Standish Sportsman's Assoc. - Bridgewater, MA
• Assawompset Arms Co. - Lakeville, MA
• Hunter's Trading Post - Weymouth, MA
• Reedy's Archery - Middleborough, MA
• Noon Hill Medfield Sportsman Club - Medfield, MA
• Armour Sports - Taunton, MA
• Patriot Firearms School - Rehoboth, MA
• Arms Group - Hopedale, MA
• Mass Firearms School - Holliston, MA
• Standish Sportsman's Assoc. - East Bridgewater

Cape:

• Cape Gun Works - Hyannis, MA

Central:

• GOAL Office - Northborough (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday)
• Nick's Sports Shop on Park Street in Palmer, MA
• Nenameseck Sportsmens Club in Palmer, MA
• Bearded Arms - Chicopee, MA
• Down Range Sports - Barre, MA
• Match Shot Firearms - Gardner, MA
• The Gun Parlor - Worcester, MA
• Marlboro Fish & Game Association – Marlboro, MA
• MB Sporting Goods – Three Rivers, MA
• Spencer Fish & Game - Spencer, MA
• Franklin County Sportsman - Deerfield, MA
• Otter River Sportsmen - Templeton, MA
• The Gun Rack - Turner Falls, MA
• Red Circle Tactical - Fall River, MA
• Independent Sportsman's Club - Foxborough, MA
• Ames Rifle and Pistol Club - Easton, MA

Western:

• Fairview Rod and Gun – Granby
• Dave's Sporting Goods - Pittsfield, MA
• Pete's Gun Shop - Adams, MA

GOAL

 

[Live-a-Little]

Just wanted to say keep up the good work guys and gals. This past weekend I drove through both central and western ma on the back roads. I saw quite a lot of HD4420 signs. On top of that I spoke with several people at a function who don’t even own firearms and are appalled by the audacity of this bill. They were already fairly well informed about it and I filled in the gaps. Two of whom had already spoken to their reps in opposition to the bill.

The information is spreading and it seems to have crossed over to more than just the 2A community.

 

[rogersmithiii]

Just wanted to say keep up the good work guys and gals. This past weekend I drove through both central and western ma on the back roads. I saw quite a lot of HD4420 signs. On top of that I spoke with several people at a function who don’t even own firearms and are appalled by the audacity of this bill. They were already fairly well informed about it and I filled in the gaps. Two of whom had already spoken to their reps in opposition to the bill.

The information is spreading and it seems to have crossed over to more than just the 2A community.

The left will get a win, even if they pare this bill down to a few infringements. Every effort takes more of our rights away bit by bit.

 

[413guy]

Two yard signs in Ware have you fired up?

I personally planted two in Sturbridge, two in Southbridge, and three in Charlton.

Boo!

I put up three. so far someone took one down. less than a full 24 hours. we shall see how the other two fare.

 

[413guy]

HD.4420 Sign Pick Up Spots:​

If you want to host a pickup spot contact KerrieAnn@goal.org

Northeast:

• Patriot Arms - Route 1 Ipswich, MA
• Precision Point Firearms - Woburn, MA
• Ma**h*** Firearms - Littleton, MA
• Lowell Sportsmen's Club - Chelmsford, MA
• Nicholas - Stoneham, MA
• Four Seasons Firearms - Woburn, MA

Southeast:

• On Target Training - East Bridgewater, MA
• Brophy's Fine Firearms - Middleborough, MA
• Outer Limits Pro Shop - Holbrook, MA
• Standish Sportsman's Assoc. - Bridgewater, MA
• Assawompset Arms Co. - Lakeville, MA
• Hunter's Trading Post - Weymouth, MA
• Reedy's Archery - Middleborough, MA
• Noon Hill Medfield Sportsman Club - Medfield, MA
• Armour Sports - Taunton, MA
• Patriot Firearms School - Rehoboth, MA
• Arms Group - Hopedale, MA
• Mass Firearms School - Holliston, MA
• Standish Sportsman's Assoc. - East Bridgewater

Cape:

• Cape Gun Works - Hyannis, MA

Central:

• GOAL Office - Northborough (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday)
• Nick's Sports Shop on Park Street in Palmer, MA
• Nenameseck Sportsmens Club in Palmer, MA
• Bearded Arms - Chicopee, MA
• Down Range Sports - Barre, MA
• Match Shot Firearms - Gardner, MA
• The Gun Parlor - Worcester, MA
• Marlboro Fish & Game Association – Marlboro, MA
• MB Sporting Goods – Three Rivers, MA
• Spencer Fish & Game - Spencer, MA
• Franklin County Sportsman - Deerfield, MA
• Otter River Sportsmen - Templeton, MA
• The Gun Rack - Turner Falls, MA
• Red Circle Tactical - Fall River, MA
• Independent Sportsman's Club - Foxborough, MA
• Ames Rifle and Pistol Club - Easton, MA

Western:

• Fairview Rod and Gun – Granby
• Dave's Sporting Goods - Pittsfield, MA
• Pete's Gun Shop - Adams, MA

GOAL

Please let us know all the places where we can get signs. I'd be happy to put one up.

I had the same question. look just above you, post 5436. I also quoted it so it's right here. It is coming in GOAL emails and is on their site. There are also other places not listed. quick call to your most local shop and you may find what you seek.


edit: didn't refresh my browser fast enough and duped!

 

[amm5061]

Saw a sign in the wild on my way to Cumbies on Saturday. Gave me a little bit of a morale boost after a rough work week.

 

[Toast]

One sign in a yard in Raynham (sadly on a smaller side street) and a group on Rt. 138 above 495N just down the road.

 

[Harry Christopher]

They know it's all BS. It doesn't matter. The BS just needs to be slightly believable to allow them justification to pass this gun control. They know the average schlub won't do any homework, so they can lie and get away with it.

The facts are irrelevant. It's how many votes the pols can get during the next re-election cycle, and what the majority wants to hear in exchange for those votes.

"The facts are irrelevant" sums up exactly the institutional mindset that we are struggling against in our effort to maintain our Constitutional civil rights. Even when we offer actual facts to support our point of view, we run into complete political indifference at best and outright hostility at worst from the elected officials who have apparently subscribed to the opinion that they.....and only they.....understand how to address the question of crime and criminality in the Republic and our opinions are not sought nor are they welcome as part of this important conversation.

People who believe in the struggle for our 2-A civil rights may at times feel like they are gambling in a casino...... knowing full well that the rules of the game favor the house.....but continuing to do so nevertheless because they also know that it's the only game in town.

I have tried to point out in my communications with legislators that we do not wish to live in a New England version of Austin, L.A., San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Philadelphia and the rest of the failed urban centers that have become living, breathing examples of how this disarm the citizenry school of philosophy will play out in reality, but evidently, they just flat out don't think that their gun control legislation will lead to that happening here......and if it does....... they don't care.

H.L.Mencken seems to have observed the same sort of political climate back in his day when he wrote: